Comments on: Google are killing the future of RSS http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:39:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: Robinson Go http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-114562 Robinson Go Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:57:15 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-114562 Hi Andy, I'd just like to get your view. Google recently bought Feedburner, do you have any speculations on this action? What are they thinking anyway? Rob Hi Andy,

I’d just like to get your view. Google recently bought Feedburner, do you have any speculations on this action? What are they thinking anyway?

Rob

]]> By: Surviving Google: A New Milestoe- PR0 | My Affiliate Journey - Affiliate Marketing Blog by Vlad http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-109806 Surviving Google: A New Milestoe- PR0 | My Affiliate Journey - Affiliate Marketing Blog by Vlad Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:49:11 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-109806 [...] need Google at all today to market your website and that the social media websites along with theRSS technology constitute the biggest threat to Google, as well as to other search engines. They (the search engines) should be working very hard on some [...] [...] need Google at all today to market your website and that the social media websites along with theRSS technology constitute the biggest threat to Google, as well as to other search engines. They (the search engines) should be working very hard on some [...]

]]> By: Open Social Web - Google + Feedburner Really Is Bad For RSS | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-69178 Open Social Web - Google + Feedburner Really Is Bad For RSS | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:06:08 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-69178 [...] off a heated debate about RSS sharing, and how Google with it's easy to share feeds could be killing the future of RSS. Now I say I fired it off, but honestly it would have been a storm in a teacup without Robert [...] [...] off a heated debate about RSS sharing, and how Google with it's easy to share feeds could be killing the future of RSS. Now I say I fired it off, but honestly it would have been a storm in a teacup without Robert [...]

]]> By: Linking for Traffic? - Andy Beard http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-2752 Linking for Traffic? - Andy Beard Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:17:23 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-2752 [...] When I took Robert Scoble to task on his promotion of Google Reader, I experienced a significant surge in traffic from his post, but very little of it stayed around as subscribers, or even read my first post on the subject. [...] [...] When I took Robert Scoble to task on his promotion of Google Reader, I experienced a significant surge in traffic from his post, but very little of it stayed around as subscribers, or even read my first post on the subject. [...]

]]> By: The Easy Way To Syndicate Other Peoples Content, but… at Andy Beard http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-346 The Easy Way To Syndicate Other Peoples Content, but… at Andy Beard Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:47:30 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-346 [...] My second post on this subject did receive some more attention, notably Robert Scoble, and I would like to thank him for at least opening up some discussion on the subject. [...] [...] My second post on this subject did receive some more attention, notably Robert Scoble, and I would like to thank him for at least opening up some discussion on the subject. [...]

]]> By: 11/12/2006 10:50 AM - Matthew Gifford http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-255 11/12/2006 10:50 AM - Matthew Gifford Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:17:29 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-255 [...] I’d really like to know what they say about it. 11/12/2006 10:50 AM | Tags: Podcasting | Trackback OneComment [...] [...] I’d really like to know what they say about it. 11/12/2006 10:50 AM | Tags: Podcasting | Trackback OneComment [...]

]]> By: Newslens Podcast Episode 1 at Wiggler http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-210 Newslens Podcast Episode 1 at Wiggler Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:29:25 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-210 [...] Google is killing RSS [andybeard] [...] [...] Google is killing RSS [andybeard] [...]

]]> By: Matt Gifford http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-185 Matt Gifford Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:17:34 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-185 I'm not sure how my examples are extreme. Once you add DRM to RSS, all the publishers are going to add it to all their feeds in an attempt to "control" their content. This is exactly what the music, TV, and movie industries have done, and it's done nothing but alienate their customers. But now that I think about it more, RSS is not like CD and DVD players and recorders because it is a free, open spec. Anyone is allowed to play without having to buy a license from some governing body. Because of this, I can guarantee that RSS will *never* have DRM. Even if you convinced every one of the existing companies who make aggregators to implement your no-sharing flag, it would fail. Someone else would see a new niche in the market and create an aggregator that ignores the flag. There's also no chance that the publishing industry will ever create a format to replace RSS. There are too many players with too many competing interests. One only has to look at the HD DVD/Blu-Ray mess to see how that would end up. And there are only a few major players in that struggle. I’m not sure how my examples are extreme. Once you add DRM to RSS, all the publishers are going to add it to all their feeds in an attempt to “control” their content. This is exactly what the music, TV, and movie industries have done, and it’s done nothing but alienate their customers.

But now that I think about it more, RSS is not like CD and DVD players and recorders because it is a free, open spec. Anyone is allowed to play without having to buy a license from some governing body. Because of this, I can guarantee that RSS will *never* have DRM. Even if you convinced every one of the existing companies who make aggregators to implement your no-sharing flag, it would fail. Someone else would see a new niche in the market and create an aggregator that ignores the flag.

There’s also no chance that the publishing industry will ever create a format to replace RSS. There are too many players with too many competing interests. One only has to look at the HD DVD/Blu-Ray mess to see how that would end up. And there are only a few major players in that struggle.

]]> By: Andy Beard http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-175 Andy Beard Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:41:23 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-175 Hi Matt I don't censor negative comments. Everyone is entitled to differing opinions. Unfortunately Spam Karma for some reason didn't like you with the default configuration. It also blocked the pingback for some reason. Spam Karma 2 Report: +0.50 - Javascript Payload: Valid Javascript payload (can be fake). +0.50 - Link Counter: Comment has no URL in content (but one author URL) -2.50 - Encrypted Payload: Encrypted payload valid: IP not matching. -8.00 - Snowball Effect: Commenter granularity (based on URL): 0 old comment(s) (karma avg: 0.000000), 4 recent comment(s) (karma avg: 5.400000). -4.00 - Snowball Effect: Commenter granularity (based on email): 0 old comment(s) (karma avg: 0.000000), 4 recent comment(s) (karma avg: 5.400000). ======== -13.50 - Overall Karma ======== As to your examples, I think they are a bit extreme Having a requester popup saying "Do you really want to share XYZ because:-" When you are browsing down your "River of News" and hitting shift S to share stuff, it is very easy to make a mistake. In some ways Google is already treating RSS like email, that is probably the reason they don't provide any subscriber information, in the same way by defauly pictures (used for tracking) are not shown in Gmail. Google are making RSS more private which many might look on as a good thing. Unfortunately advertising and some level of tracking go hand in hand, otherwise you can't evaluate the effectiveness of the advertising. But you are right in one way. If RSS doesn't have a way of preventing sharing, eventually content publishers will come up with an alternative replacement for RSS which they can control, and that is the distribution method that will become mass market. Hi Matt

I don’t censor negative comments. Everyone is entitled to differing opinions.
Unfortunately Spam Karma for some reason didn’t like you with the default configuration. It also blocked the pingback for some reason.

Spam Karma 2 Report:
+0.50 – Javascript Payload: Valid Javascript payload (can be fake).
+0.50 – Link Counter: Comment has no URL in content (but one author URL)
-2.50 – Encrypted Payload: Encrypted payload valid: IP not matching.
-8.00 – Snowball Effect: Commenter granularity (based on URL): 0 old comment(s) (karma avg: 0.000000), 4 recent comment(s) (karma avg: 5.400000).
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As to your examples, I think they are a bit extreme

Having a requester popup saying

“Do you really want to share XYZ because:-”

When you are browsing down your “River of News” and hitting shift S to share stuff, it is very easy to make a mistake.

In some ways Google is already treating RSS like email, that is probably the reason they don’t provide any subscriber information, in the same way by defauly pictures (used for tracking) are not shown in Gmail.
Google are making RSS more private which many might look on as a good thing.

Unfortunately advertising and some level of tracking go hand in hand, otherwise you can’t evaluate the effectiveness of the advertising.

But you are right in one way. If RSS doesn’t have a way of preventing sharing, eventually content publishers will come up with an alternative replacement for RSS which they can control, and that is the distribution method that will become mass market.

]]> By: Re: Google are killing the future of RSS - Matthew Gifford http://andybeard.eu/116/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-171 Re: Google are killing the future of RSS - Matthew Gifford Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:57:25 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2006/11/google-are-killing-the-future-of-rss.html#comment-171 [...] I’ve been having a conversation with Andy Beard on a post of his entitled Google are killing the future of RSS. For some reason, my most recent comment has not appeared on the page. I can only assume that he did not appreciate its tone. So, I have decided to post the comment here: [...] [...] I’ve been having a conversation with Andy Beard on a post of his entitled Google are killing the future of RSS. For some reason, my most recent comment has not appeared on the page. I can only assume that he did not appreciate its tone. So, I have decided to post the comment here: [...]

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