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	<title>Comments on: Sphinn Moderation An Insult To Gary Halbert</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-250564</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you remove the affiliate links and the bonus offered it is just a news item about a product that some Sphinn users (internet marketers) might be interested in, along with a useful quote, and a link to a resource many I am sure wouldn&#039;t have heard about.

A few people weren&#039;t quite sure about what was in the product, so I provided them with some followup information.

The only reason I ever used the spam button when I was on Sphinn was for stuff that was off-topic

A recent blog giveaway one of the ways to gain entries was to vote for the giveaway on Sphinn, Stumble entries etc. 

A follow on from that is another site doing a guest post competition with similar tactics to measure the winners (something Rich got banned for)

Part of the problem for affiliate reviews is product access during the timespan available of the launch. I had access to part of the product that was completed, and pretty solid, that is what I covered.

For another recent product, Niche Annihilation I wrote about it and didn&#039;t include affiliate links, even though I had access to the product - I opted instead to offer links through to reader reviews.

Bum Marketing Squidoo and Hubpages are still listed on Sphinn for that product.

I don&#039;t know whether or not what I wrote about Niche Annihilation was submitted, it certainly doesn&#039;t appear in Google currently.

It is also interesting that what I wrote about Stomernet also doesn&#039;t appear on Sphinn anymore - I seem to remember that being submitted and there was a lot more content.

Yes it was still an affiliate review but does that automatically make it bad content?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you remove the affiliate links and the bonus offered it is just a news item about a product that some Sphinn users (internet marketers) might be interested in, along with a useful quote, and a link to a resource many I am sure wouldn&#8217;t have heard about.</p>
<p>A few people weren&#8217;t quite sure about what was in the product, so I provided them with some followup information.</p>
<p>The only reason I ever used the spam button when I was on Sphinn was for stuff that was off-topic</p>
<p>A recent blog giveaway one of the ways to gain entries was to vote for the giveaway on Sphinn, Stumble entries etc. </p>
<p>A follow on from that is another site doing a guest post competition with similar tactics to measure the winners (something Rich got banned for)</p>
<p>Part of the problem for affiliate reviews is product access during the timespan available of the launch. I had access to part of the product that was completed, and pretty solid, that is what I covered.</p>
<p>For another recent product, Niche Annihilation I wrote about it and didn&#8217;t include affiliate links, even though I had access to the product &#8211; I opted instead to offer links through to reader reviews.</p>
<p>Bum Marketing Squidoo and Hubpages are still listed on Sphinn for that product.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether or not what I wrote about Niche Annihilation was submitted, it certainly doesn&#8217;t appear in Google currently.</p>
<p>It is also interesting that what I wrote about Stomernet also doesn&#8217;t appear on Sphinn anymore &#8211; I seem to remember that being submitted and there was a lot more content.</p>
<p>Yes it was still an affiliate review but does that automatically make it bad content?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-250413</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Andy, the Desphinn button is to help users vote down stories that aren&#039;t really important. The spam button is there to help get rid of your affiliate ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Andy, the Desphinn button is to help users vote down stories that aren&#8217;t really important. The spam button is there to help get rid of your affiliate ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-247766</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sphinn in theory moderates spam

If a user decided that for whatever reason a post is newsworthy or contains useful information that might interest others, that isn&#039;t spam.

I had been told specifically that the inclusion of an affiliate link in a post doesn&#039;t make it spam, and there also wasn&#039;t a problem with paid posts that contain useful information.

The much lauded implementation of the &quot;desphinn&quot; button was meant to provide the community control to prevent junk reaching the front page.

Do you really think that the launch of Product Launch Formula 2 isn&#039;t a news item that might at least warrant one post remaining on Sphinn, a community supposedly for internet marketers?

Even when something is buried on Digg there remains a trace that it was submitted, even though it will never hit the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sphinn in theory moderates spam</p>
<p>If a user decided that for whatever reason a post is newsworthy or contains useful information that might interest others, that isn&#8217;t spam.</p>
<p>I had been told specifically that the inclusion of an affiliate link in a post doesn&#8217;t make it spam, and there also wasn&#8217;t a problem with paid posts that contain useful information.</p>
<p>The much lauded implementation of the &#8220;desphinn&#8221; button was meant to provide the community control to prevent junk reaching the front page.</p>
<p>Do you really think that the launch of Product Launch Formula 2 isn&#8217;t a news item that might at least warrant one post remaining on Sphinn, a community supposedly for internet marketers?</p>
<p>Even when something is buried on Digg there remains a trace that it was submitted, even though it will never hit the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-247753</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I read every word that bastard would let me read for free... so yeah - I had heard of him before.

Sphinn moderates ads, and your ad got moderated. How is that an insult to Halbert? I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I read every word that bastard would let me read for free&#8230; so yeah &#8211; I had heard of him before.</p>
<p>Sphinn moderates ads, and your ad got moderated. How is that an insult to Halbert? I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schlegel</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-246458</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Schlegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the pleasure of eating dinner with Gary Halbert and a few others at John Reese&#039;s workshop that was held a few years back.

He was quirky as heck, but could throw out amazing headlines in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of eating dinner with Gary Halbert and a few others at John Reese&#8217;s workshop that was held a few years back.</p>
<p>He was quirky as heck, but could throw out amazing headlines in a heartbeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-245471</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I really should flag that comment as spam Jaan, based upon what I expressly stated in the post ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I really should flag that comment as spam Jaan, based upon what I expressly stated in the post ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Kanellis</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-245453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaan Kanellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refreshing post Igor.  I never really looked at it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refreshing post Igor.  I never really looked at it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: marti garaughty</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-241671</link>
		<dc:creator>marti garaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy, gawd this post brings back so many great memories for me. I first subscribed to Gary&#039;s newsletter in the late 1980&#039;s, what a goldmine of info, not to mention the entertainment value of his abrasive character but... that was part of his charm.

 I actually recived/read the PWM newsletter when it first came out and it&#039;s as appropriate today as it was back then.

 Too bad he passed away so soon, it&#039;s a great loss to the marketing world. Excellent post BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy, gawd this post brings back so many great memories for me. I first subscribed to Gary&#8217;s newsletter in the late 1980&#8242;s, what a goldmine of info, not to mention the entertainment value of his abrasive character but&#8230; that was part of his charm.</p>
<p> I actually recived/read the PWM newsletter when it first came out and it&#8217;s as appropriate today as it was back then.</p>
<p> Too bad he passed away so soon, it&#8217;s a great loss to the marketing world. Excellent post BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Goad</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-241535</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Goad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

This irks me to no end.  

I&#039;m over my head with launch but I will reply in detail when things slow down.

Seems like your readers already have a good grasp of how much attention Sphinn should be getting.  Aka, not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>This irks me to no end.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m over my head with launch but I will reply in detail when things slow down.</p>
<p>Seems like your readers already have a good grasp of how much attention Sphinn should be getting.  Aka, not much.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon Antcliff</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1319/sphinn-moderation.html#comment-241311</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndon Antcliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and yes.

Big Gar Halbert fan, after I write this I am going to click that link to see what else you write about him Andy. I think any serious Internet Marketer can learn a huge amount from the free stuff that Gary has wafting around the web.

I have learned a lot from this guy, what I take from him is the analogy of the hungry crowd. brilliant stuff.

As I don&#039;t often go to sphinn, unless it&#039;s to submit the odd post  I am not familiar with the latest &quot;thing&quot;.

I think there are issues over at Sphinn, although moderating the IM crowd must be like herding kittens. The traffic I get from a front page is hardly noticable.

Personally I think democracy in publishing is bullshit, people are basically stupid and have to be shown what&#039;s good, else all you get is the selfish gene kicking in.

The editor, or gatekeeper of information is getting a lot of flak these days, but I for one would like a trusted expert to sort through pieces of information I would like to consume rather than have the sweaty mob sift and rate it. And of course the IM crowd all have their own agenda, even the mods.

Dammit! Another comment which could have been a post, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and yes.</p>
<p>Big Gar Halbert fan, after I write this I am going to click that link to see what else you write about him Andy. I think any serious Internet Marketer can learn a huge amount from the free stuff that Gary has wafting around the web.</p>
<p>I have learned a lot from this guy, what I take from him is the analogy of the hungry crowd. brilliant stuff.</p>
<p>As I don&#8217;t often go to sphinn, unless it&#8217;s to submit the odd post  I am not familiar with the latest &#8220;thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think there are issues over at Sphinn, although moderating the IM crowd must be like herding kittens. The traffic I get from a front page is hardly noticable.</p>
<p>Personally I think democracy in publishing is bullshit, people are basically stupid and have to be shown what&#8217;s good, else all you get is the selfish gene kicking in.</p>
<p>The editor, or gatekeeper of information is getting a lot of flak these days, but I for one would like a trusted expert to sort through pieces of information I would like to consume rather than have the sweaty mob sift and rate it. And of course the IM crowd all have their own agenda, even the mods.</p>
<p>Dammit! Another comment which could have been a post, lol.</p>
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