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		<title>By: andrew goulding</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-296350</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew goulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Andy J.

Yes, I&#039;d be happy to do that but if I do, I&#039;d like something in return. No, I don&#039;t want a freebie, to post to your list or for you to join my religion / political party / network marketing home business opportunity. 

Instead, I&#039;d like to swap a couple of hour of my time for a couple of hours of yours...and I&#039;ll provide a detailed analysis of your video in return for you taking a peek at (and hopefully offering a few lines of review for) my book &amp; pop soundtrack album, The View From Bondi.

http://www.andrewgoulding.com/The-View-From-Bondi.html

As a former film editor, I think that, at the very least, you&#039;ll find it &quot;interesting&quot; as The View From Bondi is impressionistic, bordering on being a surreal musical. It&#039;s biggest influences are Dennis Potter&#039;s &quot;The Singing Detective&quot; 1986 BBC-TV (dir. Jon Amiel) &amp; Tarantino&#039;s peerless &quot;Pulp Fiction&quot; movie, 1994. The View From Bondi is hip, funny, heart-felt and very er...different.

So, if you&#039;re interested in my audacious hustle or even want to just monitor my bizarre niche marketing experiment (I&#039;ve got a viral marketing twist planned that could well be of interest to the Stompernet think-tank), drop me a line for a freebie review copy.

ADG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Andy J.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;d be happy to do that but if I do, I&#8217;d like something in return. No, I don&#8217;t want a freebie, to post to your list or for you to join my religion / political party / network marketing home business opportunity. </p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;d like to swap a couple of hour of my time for a couple of hours of yours&#8230;and I&#8217;ll provide a detailed analysis of your video in return for you taking a peek at (and hopefully offering a few lines of review for) my book &amp; pop soundtrack album, The View From Bondi.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.andrewgoulding.com/The-View-From-Bondi.html">http://www.andrewgoulding.com/The-View-From-Bondi.html</a></p>
<p>As a former film editor, I think that, at the very least, you&#8217;ll find it &#8220;interesting&#8221; as The View From Bondi is impressionistic, bordering on being a surreal musical. It&#8217;s biggest influences are Dennis Potter&#8217;s &#8220;The Singing Detective&#8221; 1986 BBC-TV (dir. Jon Amiel) &amp; Tarantino&#8217;s peerless &#8220;Pulp Fiction&#8221; movie, 1994. The View From Bondi is hip, funny, heart-felt and very er&#8230;different.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re interested in my audacious hustle or even want to just monitor my bizarre niche marketing experiment (I&#8217;ve got a viral marketing twist planned that could well be of interest to the Stompernet think-tank), drop me a line for a freebie review copy.</p>
<p>ADG</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-289992</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Goulding,

Appreciate the honesty, but what would help me (if you&#039;re interested) is a few examples of where you thought the AdWords video turned to fluff.  

Obviously, we can&#039;t please everyone, and I&#039;ve been in media for a LONG time and can appreciate your perspective.

So, if you&#039;ve got some time, I&#039;d appreciate some specifics so I can work those filters into our next presentation.

Best,

Andy Jenkins
StomperNet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Goulding,</p>
<p>Appreciate the honesty, but what would help me (if you&#8217;re interested) is a few examples of where you thought the AdWords video turned to fluff.  </p>
<p>Obviously, we can&#8217;t please everyone, and I&#8217;ve been in media for a LONG time and can appreciate your perspective.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;ve got some time, I&#8217;d appreciate some specifics so I can work those filters into our next presentation.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Andy Jenkins<br />
StomperNet</p>
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		<title>By: Flash Website Designer</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-287481</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash Website Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you had been kicked off google from your headline. This is a good blog and excellent proof that google isn&#039;t the be all and end all of online marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you had been kicked off google from your headline. This is a good blog and excellent proof that google isn&#8217;t the be all and end all of online marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-287377</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the opening was a very good one - sense of foreboding. And creating of questions in the watcher&#039;s mind. Albeit melodramatic though.

I&#039;m not really into adwords, but a good video nevertheless.

Jag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the opening was a very good one &#8211; sense of foreboding. And creating of questions in the watcher&#8217;s mind. Albeit melodramatic though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really into adwords, but a good video nevertheless.</p>
<p>Jag</p>
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		<title>By: barracuda bill</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-287299</link>
		<dc:creator>barracuda bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can get banned from google? holy crap! gotta shape up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can get banned from google? holy crap! gotta shape up.</p>
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		<title>By: SolarDave</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-286916</link>
		<dc:creator>SolarDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting that video. I didn&#039;t know about that MSN tool that tells you buyers intent before.

The video is good, but it still leaves me with a feeling after an hour of watching like a snake oil salesman has been talking to me just a little.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting that video. I didn&#8217;t know about that MSN tool that tells you buyers intent before.</p>
<p>The video is good, but it still leaves me with a feeling after an hour of watching like a snake oil salesman has been talking to me just a little.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: andrew goulding</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-286792</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew goulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken, Andy.

Nevertheless, these long videos somehow seem to add some kind of credibility to the exponential increase in internet marketing courses. 

What was a $97 info-product a couple of years ago is now $1,000, with many seeming to use the Frank Kern model of &quot;give&quot;, &quot;give&quot;, &quot;give&quot;, seeming overdelivery.

It&#039;s not that I&#039;m averse to high ticket marketing, not at all. However, Perry Marshall (Adwords guru) does it so much more tastefully (and in my eyes, ultimately, honestly) by funneling folks in via his low-cost Adwords course and gradually opening them to more intensive, costly courses. His marketing is modest but very powerful and highly effective.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I have a great deal of respect for the Stompernet folk. Dan Theis, Leslie Rohde, Brad &amp; Andy have been innovative and have helped many people over the years with their sound advice. It&#039;s just that I don&#039;t like their style of marketing, which, I feel, diminishes their considerable skills.

Stompernet is great value for some people...but it&#039;s too intense for many others...and their style of marketing, to me, passively intimidates, rather than convinces.

They&#039;ve set themselves up as a fantastic think-tank for the changing medium of web marketing. I don&#039;t have a problem with that, at all. However, it&#039;s the selling of that idea that doesn&#039;t sit right with me. 

ADG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, Andy.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, these long videos somehow seem to add some kind of credibility to the exponential increase in internet marketing courses. </p>
<p>What was a $97 info-product a couple of years ago is now $1,000, with many seeming to use the Frank Kern model of &#8220;give&#8221;, &#8220;give&#8221;, &#8220;give&#8221;, seeming overdelivery.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m averse to high ticket marketing, not at all. However, Perry Marshall (Adwords guru) does it so much more tastefully (and in my eyes, ultimately, honestly) by funneling folks in via his low-cost Adwords course and gradually opening them to more intensive, costly courses. His marketing is modest but very powerful and highly effective.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I have a great deal of respect for the Stompernet folk. Dan Theis, Leslie Rohde, Brad &amp; Andy have been innovative and have helped many people over the years with their sound advice. It&#8217;s just that I don&#8217;t like their style of marketing, which, I feel, diminishes their considerable skills.</p>
<p>Stompernet is great value for some people&#8230;but it&#8217;s too intense for many others&#8230;and their style of marketing, to me, passively intimidates, rather than convinces.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve set themselves up as a fantastic think-tank for the changing medium of web marketing. I don&#8217;t have a problem with that, at all. However, it&#8217;s the selling of that idea that doesn&#8217;t sit right with me. </p>
<p>ADG</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-286485</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew it certainly could be looked on like that, but also understand that the video itself is part of the pre-qualification process.
The amount of fluff really depends on what methods of information gathering stimulate your learning process.

People frequently sit through sessions at conferences to learn just a few simple new techniques that could be condensed down into a few bullet points.

I bet a number of people have watched the video end to end multiple times. I have only watched it twice so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew it certainly could be looked on like that, but also understand that the video itself is part of the pre-qualification process.<br />
The amount of fluff really depends on what methods of information gathering stimulate your learning process.</p>
<p>People frequently sit through sessions at conferences to learn just a few simple new techniques that could be condensed down into a few bullet points.</p>
<p>I bet a number of people have watched the video end to end multiple times. I have only watched it twice so far.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew goulding</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-286475</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew goulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I just add that as someone who&#039;s worked in television for many years, I find the idea of a 57 minute internet video appalling. Honestly, if you take away Stompernet&#039;s hype, the story&#039;s just bloated and poorly constructed.    

Come on, we all know that most quality current affairs journalists can do a good story in 7 minutes and a great story in 10. Hell, I&#039;ve seen Academy Award-winning documentaries that clock in at less time than that video.

These type of videos are the equivalent of the John Reese 72(?) page salesletter for Traffic Secrets, a million dollar earner, yes, but an abomination!  

As a long-time student of media &amp; mass media, I feel that these types of videos, almost irrespective of their content, are, in the end, terribly manipulative...and that&#039;s a shame, because information can be distributed simply and clearly. It&#039;s a question of discipline, taste and respect for the reader/viewer.   

ADG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I just add that as someone who&#8217;s worked in television for many years, I find the idea of a 57 minute internet video appalling. Honestly, if you take away Stompernet&#8217;s hype, the story&#8217;s just bloated and poorly constructed.    </p>
<p>Come on, we all know that most quality current affairs journalists can do a good story in 7 minutes and a great story in 10. Hell, I&#8217;ve seen Academy Award-winning documentaries that clock in at less time than that video.</p>
<p>These type of videos are the equivalent of the John Reese 72(?) page salesletter for Traffic Secrets, a million dollar earner, yes, but an abomination!  </p>
<p>As a long-time student of media &amp; mass media, I feel that these types of videos, almost irrespective of their content, are, in the end, terribly manipulative&#8230;and that&#8217;s a shame, because information can be distributed simply and clearly. It&#8217;s a question of discipline, taste and respect for the reader/viewer.   </p>
<p>ADG</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/1346/banned-by-google.html#comment-286292</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 06:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW 
thanks for the post, I so out of with SEO, i wasn&#039;t aware he had got banned, this was his flagship wasn&#039;t it that launched him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW<br />
thanks for the post, I so out of with SEO, i wasn&#8217;t aware he had got banned, this was his flagship wasn&#8217;t it that launched him.</p>
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