Comments on: Launch Tree Bonus From Stompernet

By: Andy Beard

Andy Beard — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:51:45 +0000

You just broke my comment policy

At the same time you probably broke the UK Consumer Protection act, and your website is probably illegal in the UK

By: cream

cream — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:46:14 +0000

Nice blog, very useful and well-done.I read what Steve had to say, and I unfortunately have shared much of his experience and agree with much of what was said. Most of the time I get the feeling that these launches are really just a closed circle of Internet marketers patting each other on the back and getting rich off would-be marketers who don’t know better.

By: Andy @ Stock charts

Andy @ Stock charts — Sat, 23 May 2009 08:25:25 +0000

I agree with u Andy ! Not every friend of mine promote things that are not relevant to their audience .. Like I have got a warez blog & i wanted my friend to market it but he didn’t because he is a teacher ..

By: Andy Beard

Andy Beard — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:38:59 +0000

There certainly is a lot of back-scratching, but at the same time in most cases the cream rises to the surface.
People become friends with those they see on a regular basis (conference circuit etc), learn to respect their opinion, socialize together etc.

There are lots of “closed” circles though, and in internet marketing there are huge divisions of opinion, no matter what the specialty.

I am biased too, I have always promoted the blogs of my core readers more than the lurkers – the people I know, whose opinion I value.

It is natural

It is also natural for successful people to want to associate with people who are a step above them, as it can determine their own success.

Whilst there are a lot of friends, they are not going to promote things that are not relevant to their audience.

By: Andy Beard

Andy Beard — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:07:38 +0000

Initial launch deals for BFM were around the $500 mark, on the Warrior forum, iirc.

Then there were the upgrades offered to people who purchased the manuscript, for $500 – but a digital version.

When I purchased BFM, it was as a bonus to an event that cost $400

If you paid “full price”, the $1500 or whatever the physical version sells for, I dearly hope you took some action and created something with it.

It is however a 3 year old product, and there are tons of copycats on the market appearing almost every day, especially on the Warrior forum.

I am also not a huge fan of “a $xyz value” claims – for me it is poor English – in England you would use “worth $xyz”

How much something is worth really is hard to determine.

What I always attempt to do if I am promoting something is ensure that the free information is high quality.

An ebook is just 1s and 0s, a digital stream of data that can be deciphered into words. The words have meaning, and some of them are valuable to people, helping them improve their business in some way.

I started online with nothing – my first niche website was created on free hosting.

I have paid for tons of membership sites which I didn’t have time to visit, or sucked up too much time.

By: Ralph | Vertical Measures

Ralph | Vertical Measures — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:25:45 +0000

The conversation here is as valuable as the post. I read what Steve had to say, and I unfortunately have shared much of his experience and agree with much of what was said. Most of the time I get the feeling that these launches are really just a closed circle of Internet marketers patting each other on the back and getting rich off would-be marketers who don’t know better. And I know cause I was one. The whole story is usually hard to find beneath the hype and consequently, people like Steve and I start to look at every product launch with a certain amount of cynicism, for better or for worse.

By: Steve Full Time Wealthy affiliate

Steve Full Time Wealthy affiliate — Thu, 21 May 2009 10:53:41 +0000

I’m sorry you thought my comment was of topic, but I stand by it.
More and more newbies are dragged kicking and screaming in to theses programs/products
Only to end up collecting dust on their hard drives, the simple fact is, if the truth was told on some of theses sales pages put up all over the web, should come with warnings, this product is not for inexperienced marketers you know yourself if this was a legal requirement conversion rates would drop through the floor.

And since I purchased BFM at the full price I feel I have the right to my opinion on the fact that this products value was defaced just to promote a subscription to the best darn news letter, which is also on it’s second time around due to the fact that the first time, it turned out to be the worst news letter you could ever have the privilege of reading.

On the other hand I have absolutely no complaints about stomperNet, although the first subscription was a total deserter, and I have 2 copies of the same mag, but since it’s now online in digital format it’s grate.

So my first comment although maybe a little of topic was just to bring to the table that the perceived cost and value of a product that costs hundreds can in fact only be in real terms be the cost of the next big release and be given away has a bonus to the unknowing newbi web population.

If I had known I could have waited around and only paid shipping and the price of a months subscription
For BFM I would have.

So my feelings on all the promotional e-mails I have received on the launch tree is, hell I will just wait around and pick it up when it’s given away as some bonus some time in the future.

The gurus or whatever you want to call them, no longer have any products that have any value.

Sample incredible bonus offers,

Before telling you what Launch Tree is, I wanted to mention that
for all of you who decide to join through my link I will be giving
you a monumental $3826 in extra bonuses!

Of cause he never gets into telling what launch tree is for fear of e-mail deletion.

That’s just one of 30 e-mails for launch tree, if I was to count up the cost of bonuses it would total over $90,000 so I ask you what value dose launch tree or any other product have when I could buy 30 copies and get over $90,000 in bonuses that only last year where sold for hundreds on their own?
No doubt at sometime in the near future launch tree will be added to the bonus list.

By: Synergy Space

Synergy Space — Wed, 20 May 2009 09:30:49 +0000

Since I took myself off just about every guru’s mailing list I’ve not heard of Launch Tree, though if anybody’s going to buy I would urge that you use Andy Jenkins link, take it from a dude who got 1 month free membership to Stompernet and has been saving furiously to get back in:)

By: Alpheratz

Alpheratz — Wed, 20 May 2009 05:21:50 +0000

When too many people take any (and this, of course) opportunity, its` value becomes not so precious. But I suppose, It still can have its` shot..

By: Andy Beard

Andy Beard — Wed, 20 May 2009 03:03:47 +0000

Unfortunately I can’t see a reason why I would ever use your forms