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		<title>By: Jarrod Morris</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2329/stompernet-infusionsoft.html#comment-442628</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opt-out links are common across most legitimate email providers who are following the CANN-SPAM laws. What&#039;s nice is that Infusionsoft allows you to create custom opt-out links so you can display any text you wish with a hyperlink. This link of course as you stated is still an Infusionsoft link.

A while back Infusionsoft created the ability to place a file (script provided by them) on your server to change affiliate links from Infusionsoft domain to your own personal domain. This was awesome and great forethought.

As a trusted partner of Infusionsoft I will make the recommendation of changing the opt-out links to have similar functionality, injecting your own domain. As a matter of fact, it would be really sweet if this was the case for trackable links, double opt-in links and update links. (Even if they really end up redirecting to an Infusionsoft hosted page, this would be a great start).

I am sure that one reason this hasn&#039;t been put in the pipe yet is due to the nature of most Infusionsoft users. They don&#039;t run just one businesses, they have many, with many different domains. And even if they do have one business, they might have a main site with 2-3 sister sites with 15 different squeeze pages. How would Infusionsoft know which domain to use? Perhaps multiple custom links of each type, using merge fields in the templates?

Now I am thinking outloud. But this has been a great post with great follow-up comments. Thank you for your thoughts Andy.

Jarrod Morris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opt-out links are common across most legitimate email providers who are following the CANN-SPAM laws. What&#8217;s nice is that Infusionsoft allows you to create custom opt-out links so you can display any text you wish with a hyperlink. This link of course as you stated is still an Infusionsoft link.</p>
<p>A while back Infusionsoft created the ability to place a file (script provided by them) on your server to change affiliate links from Infusionsoft domain to your own personal domain. This was awesome and great forethought.</p>
<p>As a trusted partner of Infusionsoft I will make the recommendation of changing the opt-out links to have similar functionality, injecting your own domain. As a matter of fact, it would be really sweet if this was the case for trackable links, double opt-in links and update links. (Even if they really end up redirecting to an Infusionsoft hosted page, this would be a great start).</p>
<p>I am sure that one reason this hasn&#8217;t been put in the pipe yet is due to the nature of most Infusionsoft users. They don&#8217;t run just one businesses, they have many, with many different domains. And even if they do have one business, they might have a main site with 2-3 sister sites with 15 different squeeze pages. How would Infusionsoft know which domain to use? Perhaps multiple custom links of each type, using merge fields in the templates?</p>
<p>Now I am thinking outloud. But this has been a great post with great follow-up comments. Thank you for your thoughts Andy.</p>
<p>Jarrod Morris</p>
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		<title>By: NetBet</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2329/stompernet-infusionsoft.html#comment-442594</link>
		<dc:creator>NetBet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stompernet have been already operating for 3 years and have proved to be a good and reliable business-supporter.  Thanks for the nice post, I think Infusionsoft is a perfect tool for the email marketing and list management. What I also like about Stompernet is they give the ability to take part in the world class training, which will help to better get in touch with Infusionsoft option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stompernet have been already operating for 3 years and have proved to be a good and reliable business-supporter.  Thanks for the nice post, I think Infusionsoft is a perfect tool for the email marketing and list management. What I also like about Stompernet is they give the ability to take part in the world class training, which will help to better get in touch with Infusionsoft option.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually need to do an official update here after spending a good 2 hours on the phone last night with people from Infusionsoft.

Currently there is no method in place to purchase additional credits and whilst they are receptive to my suggestions that it is a critical element, there are absolutely no guarantees that this will be introduced.
Thus the only upgrade path from 750 emails per month is to pay $200/month to Infusionsoft

I think they are leaving a lot of money on the table and people will use other alternatives for bulk emails, which might even reduce Infusionsoft long-term income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually need to do an official update here after spending a good 2 hours on the phone last night with people from Infusionsoft.</p>
<p>Currently there is no method in place to purchase additional credits and whilst they are receptive to my suggestions that it is a critical element, there are absolutely no guarantees that this will be introduced.<br />
Thus the only upgrade path from 750 emails per month is to pay $200/month to Infusionsoft</p>
<p>I think they are leaving a lot of money on the table and people will use other alternatives for bulk emails, which might even reduce Infusionsoft long-term income.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary, NC Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary, NC Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I wonder if the double opt-in lead additions could become part of a &quot;service package&quot; of sorts for Infusionsoft? I like the idea, and it seems like it would add more flexibility. Hrmmm, so many decisions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I wonder if the double opt-in lead additions could become part of a &#8220;service package&#8221; of sorts for Infusionsoft? I like the idea, and it seems like it would add more flexibility. Hrmmm, so many decisions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kredittkort</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2329/stompernet-infusionsoft.html#comment-442507</link>
		<dc:creator>Kredittkort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta agree with Alex Sysoef; I cant find a single REALLY good reason for going with them.. Kinda annoying, I cant make up my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree with Alex Sysoef; I cant find a single REALLY good reason for going with them.. Kinda annoying, I cant make up my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I just associate trcb.com with Twitter spam for the Stompernet launch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I just associate trcb.com with Twitter spam for the Stompernet launch</p>
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		<title>By: Siddique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Great post.  Learned a lot from one post verses going to forums and going through zillions post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Great post.  Learned a lot from one post verses going to forums and going through zillions post.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2329/stompernet-infusionsoft.html#comment-442496</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have less than 5000 contacts, the Stompernet Special Edition works out cheaper than the official basic edition, no matter how many times you send email.

The 25000 credits with &quot;basic&quot; is only $50 worth

If you are going to be emailing a lot, then you can potentially look at adding another autoresponder service with unlimited emails into the mix, and use Infusionsoft for later segmentation.

A really useful integration though one I doubt would ever happen is Aweber &gt;&gt; Infusionsoft, so Infusionsoft would be notified of a double opt-in and add a lead to their database automatically. There would need to be an established level of trust for it to work. It is something Getresponse could do for their Deda customers, but not sure Infusionsoft would accept the leads as being double opt-in. Hmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have less than 5000 contacts, the Stompernet Special Edition works out cheaper than the official basic edition, no matter how many times you send email.</p>
<p>The 25000 credits with &#8220;basic&#8221; is only $50 worth</p>
<p>If you are going to be emailing a lot, then you can potentially look at adding another autoresponder service with unlimited emails into the mix, and use Infusionsoft for later segmentation.</p>
<p>A really useful integration though one I doubt would ever happen is Aweber >> Infusionsoft, so Infusionsoft would be notified of a double opt-in and add a lead to their database automatically. There would need to be an established level of trust for it to work. It is something Getresponse could do for their Deda customers, but not sure Infusionsoft would accept the leads as being double opt-in. Hmm</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way they are going to remove the opt-out link completely, so then you need to decide whether an option for a re-branded opt-out with your domain is really a significant benefit.

Long-term I don&#039;t think it is, as an opt-out link for any and all business communication will become just as standard as a statement that all business communication should be considered confidential.

So then you need to consider trust in the opt-out process. If I have opted out of emails processed by Infusionsoft in the past and it worked, I am more likely to trust their opt-out process again and use that link rather than hit the spam button.

What if they moved people who wanted unbranded to the single opt-in servers due to the higher chance of a spam report? Is that something you would find acceptable?

I can remember reading some of the lengthy debate on the Infusionsoft support forums a while back, and there was mention of the ability (or proposed) of using an affiliate link there for the logo, or to have it unlinked. 

As more people use  automated followup systems, it becomes more and more obvious. The solution isn&#039;t to hide it, but to make the communication valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way they are going to remove the opt-out link completely, so then you need to decide whether an option for a re-branded opt-out with your domain is really a significant benefit.</p>
<p>Long-term I don&#8217;t think it is, as an opt-out link for any and all business communication will become just as standard as a statement that all business communication should be considered confidential.</p>
<p>So then you need to consider trust in the opt-out process. If I have opted out of emails processed by Infusionsoft in the past and it worked, I am more likely to trust their opt-out process again and use that link rather than hit the spam button.</p>
<p>What if they moved people who wanted unbranded to the single opt-in servers due to the higher chance of a spam report? Is that something you would find acceptable?</p>
<p>I can remember reading some of the lengthy debate on the Infusionsoft support forums a while back, and there was mention of the ability (or proposed) of using an affiliate link there for the logo, or to have it unlinked. </p>
<p>As more people use  automated followup systems, it becomes more and more obvious. The solution isn&#8217;t to hide it, but to make the communication valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with Darlene...

The whole point is to have the ability to follow up automatically and personally.  Not to have your customers KNOW a program is doing it &quot;while you are playing golf&quot; as infusionsoft says.  

The only reason they will not do it is because they will not get the free advertising.  But at what expense?  So make it an &quot;add on&quot; option for &quot;more money&quot;, take the &quot;more money&quot; and use it for advertising, what&#039;s the hold up?  It&#039;s a wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Darlene&#8230;</p>
<p>The whole point is to have the ability to follow up automatically and personally.  Not to have your customers KNOW a program is doing it &#8220;while you are playing golf&#8221; as infusionsoft says.  </p>
<p>The only reason they will not do it is because they will not get the free advertising.  But at what expense?  So make it an &#8220;add on&#8221; option for &#8220;more money&#8221;, take the &#8220;more money&#8221; and use it for advertising, what&#8217;s the hold up?  It&#8217;s a wash.</p>
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