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	<title>Comments on: Friday 13th &#8211; A Very Bad Day for Comment Spammers</title>
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	<description>Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude</description>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443857</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate when people post dofollow blog lists in forums such as DigitalPoint. It doesn&#039;t matter when people say &quot;Please post quality comments only and don&#039;t spam&quot; because people WILL spam. This one guy posted about a PR 8 blog once and the guy turned off dofollow the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate when people post dofollow blog lists in forums such as DigitalPoint. It doesn&#8217;t matter when people say &#8220;Please post quality comments only and don&#8217;t spam&#8221; because people WILL spam. This one guy posted about a PR 8 blog once and the guy turned off dofollow the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443341</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I switched to 100% nofollow, I would get less spam comments - I think most of the people who are part of my community would still comment.

What it would potentially reduce is growing that community

The big question is what is the value of community members in content, links or just monetary value from potential sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I switched to 100% nofollow, I would get less spam comments &#8211; I think most of the people who are part of my community would still comment.</p>
<p>What it would potentially reduce is growing that community</p>
<p>The big question is what is the value of community members in content, links or just monetary value from potential sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerryzuedy</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443334</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerryzuedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup Andy..You are rite..Nowdays a lots of people make a comment just for the backlink and sometimes its not revelen with the current topic.. But for me if you change your blog to Nofollow.. i think the visitor to your blog will decrease and your popularity will go down.. is that true Andy??? Pls reply me Andy..Anyway thank you so much..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup Andy..You are rite..Nowdays a lots of people make a comment just for the backlink and sometimes its not revelen with the current topic.. But for me if you change your blog to Nofollow.. i think the visitor to your blog will decrease and your popularity will go down.. is that true Andy??? Pls reply me Andy..Anyway thank you so much..</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443324</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel free to use whatever you like from anywhere on the blog

I might modify things a little in the near future for people who have displayed an extreme amount of trusted behaviour and possibly add keyword luv as well for those that meet similar requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to use whatever you like from anywhere on the blog</p>
<p>I might modify things a little in the near future for people who have displayed an extreme amount of trusted behaviour and possibly add keyword luv as well for those that meet similar requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane Morgan</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443322</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I can&#039;t be &quot;Dane Morgan &#124; Something Cool and Descriptive&quot; any more? I&#039;m crushed, man!

Speaking of your policies, what are your thoughts on my using them for a base to model some of my own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I can&#8217;t be &#8220;Dane Morgan | Something Cool and Descriptive&#8221; any more? I&#8217;m crushed, man!</p>
<p>Speaking of your policies, what are your thoughts on my using them for a base to model some of my own?</p>
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		<title>By: Dane Morgan</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443321</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I can&#039;t be &quot;Dane Morgan &#124; Something Cool And Descriptive&quot; anymore? I&#039;m crushed, I tell ya, crushed.

Well, you know me, I&#039;m always headed in the other direction. I think I might get around to installing keyword luv...

Course, not being an SEO guy, I have less to prove from courting Google&#039;s love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I can&#8217;t be &#8220;Dane Morgan | Something Cool And Descriptive&#8221; anymore? I&#8217;m crushed, I tell ya, crushed.</p>
<p>Well, you know me, I&#8217;m always headed in the other direction. I think I might get around to installing keyword luv&#8230;</p>
<p>Course, not being an SEO guy, I have less to prove from courting Google&#8217;s love.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443308</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is you are looking at this from the perspective of someone looking to build links for clients.

I would have the same comment policy even if I didn&#039;t have dofollow links.

For me a comment is the opinion of a person, and the purpose of the link is for readers to find out more about that person and why they have that specific point of view.

A competent SEO would be able to gain significant benefit from the authority build up from a personal profile page - maybe not as much benefit as direct deep linking with keyword focused terms but because of the potentially higher stick rate with a lot less friction to overcome on a link that isn&#039;t overtly for link building, any shortcomings are probably negated.

A login procedure only has benefit if it can be monetized by increasing permission to market to people.

Related site doesn&#039;t matter to me - a comment is by a person, so if a person leaves a comment, and link through to something that is related to them, it is a good link.

Akismet? I am not a fan of collective intelligence for comment spam, plus there are privacy issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is you are looking at this from the perspective of someone looking to build links for clients.</p>
<p>I would have the same comment policy even if I didn&#8217;t have dofollow links.</p>
<p>For me a comment is the opinion of a person, and the purpose of the link is for readers to find out more about that person and why they have that specific point of view.</p>
<p>A competent SEO would be able to gain significant benefit from the authority build up from a personal profile page &#8211; maybe not as much benefit as direct deep linking with keyword focused terms but because of the potentially higher stick rate with a lot less friction to overcome on a link that isn&#8217;t overtly for link building, any shortcomings are probably negated.</p>
<p>A login procedure only has benefit if it can be monetized by increasing permission to market to people.</p>
<p>Related site doesn&#8217;t matter to me &#8211; a comment is by a person, so if a person leaves a comment, and link through to something that is related to them, it is a good link.</p>
<p>Akismet? I am not a fan of collective intelligence for comment spam, plus there are privacy issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Michiel</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443306</link>
		<dc:creator>Michiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

let&#039;s turn this conversation around, after all I do understand where you come from and I appreciate that you do give dofollow links.

i just think there are better ways to deal with this isuue;
you could create a login, and then you can set it up so that people only get auto approved after they made 5-10 comments, whatever you set, but more important, I only give dofollow links to people who have a related site, not just for those who give quality comments, but only those who also have a related site, as that&#039;s more important for you; you shouldn&#039;t be linking to unrelated sites.

and i don&#039;t understand why you have so much trouble with spammers, just install askimet ...


cheers,

Michiel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>let&#8217;s turn this conversation around, after all I do understand where you come from and I appreciate that you do give dofollow links.</p>
<p>i just think there are better ways to deal with this isuue;<br />
you could create a login, and then you can set it up so that people only get auto approved after they made 5-10 comments, whatever you set, but more important, I only give dofollow links to people who have a related site, not just for those who give quality comments, but only those who also have a related site, as that&#8217;s more important for you; you shouldn&#8217;t be linking to unrelated sites.</p>
<p>and i don&#8217;t understand why you have so much trouble with spammers, just install askimet &#8230;</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>Michiel</p>
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		<title>By: Harder Facts About Comment Spam</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443289</link>
		<dc:creator>Harder Facts About Comment Spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Google rankings and the vehemence with which service providers defend them, such as when I changed my comments policy, or wrote about Wide Circles and Wide Circles Comment Spam.Comment spam generally leads to poor [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Google rankings and the vehemence with which service providers defend them, such as when I changed my comments policy, or wrote about Wide Circles and Wide Circles Comment Spam.Comment spam generally leads to poor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/2442/comment-spammers.html#comment-443288</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone&#039;s business is spraying graffiti over my house, and even if I clean it up one of their friends or competitors sprays more over my house within a couple of hours, I think I am at liberty to post a sign saying that spraying graffiti on my house is not allowed and if they persist I will take whatever actiion necessary to prevent them doing it.

In the past I have contacted the agencys directly and told them to stop - many have just ignored my emails - others were grateful I didn&#039;t write a blog post about it and changed their internal procedures. I should have charged them $500 for my consulting time.

I think my new approach won&#039;t be &quot;naming and shaming&quot; in an overt manner though conversations like I have had with Christina here in the comments aren&#039;t scaleable, and I have had 10 such conversations in recent months.

If my actions threaten your business, change your business - blog comment spam doesn&#039;t just threaten my business, it sucks it dry of valuable resources, creates a terrible experience for my readers, in many cases contravenes the consumer protection act in the UK, and potentially damages my search engine rankings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone&#8217;s business is spraying graffiti over my house, and even if I clean it up one of their friends or competitors sprays more over my house within a couple of hours, I think I am at liberty to post a sign saying that spraying graffiti on my house is not allowed and if they persist I will take whatever actiion necessary to prevent them doing it.</p>
<p>In the past I have contacted the agencys directly and told them to stop &#8211; many have just ignored my emails &#8211; others were grateful I didn&#8217;t write a blog post about it and changed their internal procedures. I should have charged them $500 for my consulting time.</p>
<p>I think my new approach won&#8217;t be &#8220;naming and shaming&#8221; in an overt manner though conversations like I have had with Christina here in the comments aren&#8217;t scaleable, and I have had 10 such conversations in recent months.</p>
<p>If my actions threaten your business, change your business &#8211; blog comment spam doesn&#8217;t just threaten my business, it sucks it dry of valuable resources, creates a terrible experience for my readers, in many cases contravenes the consumer protection act in the UK, and potentially damages my search engine rankings.</p>
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