Comments on: Wikipedia NoFollow Plugin? WikiDigg? http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html Internet Marketing, Lead Acquisition, Online Business Strategy and Social Media with Original Opinion and Loads of Attitude Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:39:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ruehl http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-441849 Ruehl Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:47:03 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-441849 Good post.<br><a href="http://www.etiffanyshop.com/l" rel="all" rel="nofollow">Tiffany Jewelry</a><br><a href="http://www.etiffanyshop.com/l" rel="all" rel="nofollow">Tiffany</a>dfs Good post.
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]]> By: SEO Linking Gotchas Even The Pros Make | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-134354 SEO Linking Gotchas Even The Pros Make | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:54:06 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-134354 [...] think I was the first to describe Wikipedia as a black hole of link equity, explained why you should nofollow Wikipedia extensively, and was one of the first to promote [...] [...] think I was the first to describe Wikipedia as a black hole of link equity, explained why you should nofollow Wikipedia extensively, and was one of the first to promote [...]

]]> By: Danilo Stern-Sapad http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-93125 Danilo Stern-Sapad Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:33:26 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-93125 I always use nofollow's when linking to Wikipedia from my websites. Their content is not authoritative, a lot of it isn't cited properly, a lot of it isn't accurate, a lot of it is poorly written, a lot of it is copyright infringement. My major issue is many of the articles base or completely rip off their content from sites listed under References (though normally they aren't listed) and sometimes under Related sites or External links. This means sources that are probably more accurate and well-written will most likely appear lower in search engines and will receive no value from Wikipedia, which is using them as a source and essentially stealing their content. I always use nofollow’s when linking to Wikipedia from my websites. Their content is not authoritative, a lot of it isn’t cited properly, a lot of it isn’t accurate, a lot of it is poorly written, a lot of it is copyright infringement. My major issue is many of the articles base or completely rip off their content from sites listed under References (though normally they aren’t listed) and sometimes under Related sites or External links. This means sources that are probably more accurate and well-written will most likely appear lower in search engines and will receive no value from Wikipedia, which is using them as a source and essentially stealing their content.

]]> By: Twitter Nofollow | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-60195 Twitter Nofollow | Andy Beard - Niche Marketing Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:03:52 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-60195 [...] isn't a minor thing, Twitter has just become another "Wikipedia", a black hole sucking in link juice and only allowing it to flow [...] [...] isn't a minor thing, Twitter has just become another "Wikipedia", a black hole sucking in link juice and only allowing it to flow [...]

]]> By: Wikipedia link to my logo designer article : David Airey :: Creative Design :: http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-35166 Wikipedia link to my logo designer article : David Airey :: Creative Design :: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:19:59 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-35166 [...] Beard has discussed how Wikipedia added nofollow to external links, saying: I would guess that a good half of the inbound links Wikipedia has are from bloggers, and [...] [...] Beard has discussed how Wikipedia added nofollow to external links, saying: I would guess that a good half of the inbound links Wikipedia has are from bloggers, and [...]

]]> By: Cornwallseo.com » Is your Blog “Link Lite”? http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4562 Cornwallseo.com » Is your Blog “Link Lite”? Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:00:25 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4562 [...] to remove the “no-follow” tag from his blog. After read about what Andy Beal and Andy Beard were up [...] [...] to remove the “no-follow” tag from his blog. After read about what Andy Beal and Andy Beard were up [...]

]]> By: Andy Beard http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4538 Andy Beard Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:26:28 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4538 I know Graywolf finally added a subscribe to comments plugin, but I am honestly scared to use one. It only takes one spam complaint from an AOL user who somehow gets a porn spam that gets through, and my domain could be shut down. Also bare in mind that currently the plugin has no email flow control, so emails are being sent off in bursts. Long term it isn't safe to have on a busy blog, unless you are running EzineArticles and the email fires off from a separate white-listed server (Chris has it nicely worked out) I am actually seeing some strange results in the SERPs monitoring a few terms., with Wikipedia actually dropping. Maybe linking out with followable links really does help relevance of your own content much more than anyone realises (or speaks about) I know Graywolf finally added a subscribe to comments plugin, but I am honestly scared to use one. It only takes one spam complaint from an AOL user who somehow gets a porn spam that gets through, and my domain could be shut down.

Also bare in mind that currently the plugin has no email flow control, so emails are being sent off in bursts. Long term it isn’t safe to have on a busy blog, unless you are running EzineArticles and the email fires off from a separate white-listed server (Chris has it nicely worked out)

I am actually seeing some strange results in the SERPs monitoring a few terms., with Wikipedia actually dropping. Maybe linking out with followable links really does help relevance of your own content much more than anyone realises (or speaks about)

]]> By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4537 Carsten Cumbrowski Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:17:46 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4537 Andy, Sorry for the delayed response. Mmhh.. Email notification for comments would be nice. Just a little bit user feedback :) "If you have a system that ultimately creates some numerical data for each link, based on how long it has been there, then you can selectively have the link followable or not." Yes, the search engines have to determine that. If it is an on site attribute, then it will be gamed. Hello Meta Tags 1990 "I have a Wikipedia account, but have only done a few edits. Some might argue that because I am not dedicated editor, I have no right to an opinion." I believe you did not grasp the concept yet. What you CAN gain by your activities is trust, which is not unimportant in a community, isn't it? "Relevance By not passing on link equity to other sites, Wikipedia themselves become… irrelevant" I don't understand that statement. Does it fall into the category like this one? : "The code is full of bugs, which is no surprise, because it was written in basic and not c++" "Why link to Wikipedia with a followable link? They don’t share the link equity back out" Answer: your headline for the paragraph I completely agree that if the search engines will obey the nofollow attribute, an imbalance due to unrealistic PageRank distribution caused by the "black hole" effect wikipedia creates by absorbing all the votes without distributing it back to the outside world, will be the result of this. I am also sure that the search engines had somebody crunching some numbers and simulating it. I hope that the result would be disastrous, because that will trigger something else that is much overdue. You guess what that might be. I mentioned it already several time. What is unfortunate is the fact that all the good reasons why I support the nofollow at wikipedia (until it will hopefully not matter anymore if there is a nofollow or not), is not the reason why it was enabled (again). I hope that a lot of people followed the arguments and adopted the good reasons now too. The SEO contest thingy is no reason IMO. If it would be just that I would say "remove the nofollow NOW". Cheers! Carsten Andy,

Sorry for the delayed response. Mmhh.. Email notification for comments would be nice. Just a little bit user feedback :)

“If you have a system that ultimately creates some numerical data for each link, based on how long it has been there, then you can selectively have the link followable or not.”

Yes, the search engines have to determine that. If it is an on site attribute, then it will be gamed. Hello Meta Tags 1990

“I have a Wikipedia account, but have only done a few edits.
Some might argue that because I am not dedicated editor, I have no right to an opinion.”

I believe you did not grasp the concept yet. What you CAN gain by your activities is trust, which is not unimportant in a community, isn’t it?

“Relevance
By not passing on link equity to other sites, Wikipedia themselves become… irrelevant”

I don’t understand that statement. Does it fall into the category like this one? : “The code is full of bugs, which is no surprise, because it was written in basic and not c++”

“Why link to Wikipedia with a followable link? They don’t share the link equity back out”

Answer: your headline for the paragraph

I completely agree that if the search engines will obey the nofollow attribute, an imbalance due to unrealistic PageRank distribution caused by the “black hole” effect wikipedia creates by absorbing all the votes without distributing it back to the outside world, will be the result of this.

I am also sure that the search engines had somebody crunching some numbers and simulating it. I hope that the result would be disastrous, because that will trigger something else that is much overdue. You guess what that might be. I mentioned it already several time.

What is unfortunate is the fact that all the good reasons why I support the nofollow at wikipedia (until it will hopefully not matter anymore if there is a nofollow or not), is not the reason why it was enabled (again).

I hope that a lot of people followed the arguments and adopted the good reasons now too. The SEO contest thingy is no reason IMO. If it would be just that I would say “remove the nofollow NOW”.

Cheers!
Carsten

]]> By: » Nofollow and wordpress why I’m removing the rewrite - » Blog Yack Yack http://andybeard.eu/294/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4416 » Nofollow and wordpress why I’m removing the rewrite - » Blog Yack Yack Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:01:05 +0000 http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/wikipedia-nofollow-plugin-wikidigg.html#comment-4416 [...] was having a read here and there today about nofollow, and was left saying to myself hmmn well at least I don’t emply the damn [...] [...] was having a read here and there today about nofollow, and was left saying to myself hmmn well at least I don’t emply the damn [...]

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