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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-135093</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I don&#039;t think many of the techniques are as viable now without some significant automation.

Lots of tools are now being sold to automate the tasks of finding competitors to squeeze out of the PPC listings, and most of the information if not all is fairly widely dispersed on internet marketing forums.

I think most people have moved on to tools such as Zamdoo, Affiliate Radar, Affiliate Elite etc, and in the support forums for such products you will find much better information and specific training far beyond ebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I don&#8217;t think many of the techniques are as viable now without some significant automation.</p>
<p>Lots of tools are now being sold to automate the tasks of finding competitors to squeeze out of the PPC listings, and most of the information if not all is fairly widely dispersed on internet marketing forums.</p>
<p>I think most people have moved on to tools such as Zamdoo, Affiliate Radar, Affiliate Elite etc, and in the support forums for such products you will find much better information and specific training far beyond ebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleece</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-135075</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andy, 

Awesome Blog / Review. The most straight up forum I have found on DJK to date. 

I have read right through this page and have yet to read a success story. Does anybody have any stats on a campaign they have run successfully using Chris&#039;s methods. 

Cheers. Fleece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy, </p>
<p>Awesome Blog / Review. The most straight up forum I have found on DJK to date. </p>
<p>I have read right through this page and have yet to read a success story. Does anybody have any stats on a campaign they have run successfully using Chris&#8217;s methods. </p>
<p>Cheers. Fleece.</p>
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		<title>By: constructicle boy</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-37792</link>
		<dc:creator>constructicle boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>day job killer?well,i think it is unreal though.because if this is true,everyone will be earning like mad and it is quite impossible because there is a certain amount of money which is only available that are up for grabs.most likely we will slog ourselves and in the end being killed by the job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>day job killer?well,i think it is unreal though.because if this is true,everyone will be earning like mad and it is quite impossible because there is a certain amount of money which is only available that are up for grabs.most likely we will slog ourselves and in the end being killed by the job</p>
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		<title>By: Rian Brooklyn [Internet &#38; Affiliate Marketing Blog]</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-36651</link>
		<dc:creator>Rian Brooklyn [Internet &#38; Affiliate Marketing Blog]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Andy,

 This is my first time to your blog, interesting stuff. I found you via &quot;day job killer&quot; so I thought I&#039;d pop in and see what the fuss is about. 

Now that the DJK fury has come and gone, how did you fair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Andy,</p>
<p> This is my first time to your blog, interesting stuff. I found you via &#8220;day job killer&#8221; so I thought I&#8217;d pop in and see what the fuss is about. </p>
<p>Now that the DJK fury has come and gone, how did you fair?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-34488</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes JV = Joint Venture

In marketing circles there are various mailing lists for top affiliates to get information on new products, and sometimes preferential affiliate pricing or income from sales.

Affiliate backend systems have special features to allow them to have pricing set on multiple tiers for their best performing affiliates.
Special pricing and conditions is however the exception, rather than the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes JV = Joint Venture</p>
<p>In marketing circles there are various mailing lists for top affiliates to get information on new products, and sometimes preferential affiliate pricing or income from sales.</p>
<p>Affiliate backend systems have special features to allow them to have pricing set on multiple tiers for their best performing affiliates.<br />
Special pricing and conditions is however the exception, rather than the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-34408</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple question: What is a JV? Joint Venture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple question: What is a JV? Joint Venture?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-14312</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog is just a work-in-progress

I only make small changes, and then write about what I changes, and most of the time it takes 10x longer to write about the changes than make the change itself.

Implementation time for most things to do with Wordpress is minutes rather than hours.

Learning how to implement the change takes much longer.

I have removed the links from both comments because they break my comments policy, and I apply it equally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog is just a work-in-progress</p>
<p>I only make small changes, and then write about what I changes, and most of the time it takes 10x longer to write about the changes than make the change itself.</p>
<p>Implementation time for most things to do with WordPress is minutes rather than hours.</p>
<p>Learning how to implement the change takes much longer.</p>
<p>I have removed the links from both comments because they break my comments policy, and I apply it equally.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby Issey</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-14309</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Issey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andy, one more thing.. How long did you take to set this blog up? It is really user friendly. 

You know what I think. JV is still the best ways to make money online. It should be the ultimate Day Job Killer.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy, one more thing.. How long did you take to set this blog up? It is really user friendly. </p>
<p>You know what I think. JV is still the best ways to make money online. It should be the ultimate Day Job Killer.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby Issey</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-14305</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Issey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andy, thanks for the informative review post on DJK. It was really a sincere one. But truthfully speaking I agree that its impossible without a list.

[Moderated - links to Squidoo lenses aimed at promoting a product don&#039;t count as personal links about you, and thus break my comments policy ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy, thanks for the informative review post on DJK. It was really a sincere one. But truthfully speaking I agree that its impossible without a list.</p>
<p>[Moderated - links to Squidoo lenses aimed at promoting a product don't count as personal links about you, and thus break my comments policy ]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Henderson</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/329/day-job-killer-review.html#comment-10519</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1  Full disclosure - I&#039;m a fan of both APX and DJK - see my reviews at Squidoo under &quot;ClickbankProductReviews&quot;.

2  There&#039;s an interesting message &quot;between the lines&quot; in DJK.  

It is the implicit acknowledgement that the convenient and accessible &quot;Clickbank+Adwords&quot; formula is now so competitive that it&#039;s tough to better break-even on an initial sale (even with name-squeeze + auto-responder followup).  

Inescapable conclusion being that you need: 

a) product portfolio and follow-up systems in place to maximize customer value with repeat sales at increasing price points

b) to explore and exploit less competitive marketplaces beyond Clickbank

3  My take on Chris&#039;s own strategy is that THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST - so:
 
a)  Use Adwords to quickly build a list big enough to qualify for JVs.  AdÃ´pt a clear and differentiated &quot;positioning&quot; for your marketing style (as did Kelly Felix).  Chris exploits &quot;bash the establishment/beat the system&quot; outlaw sentiments. 

b)  Use JVs (giving away most of the revenue) to build a BIG list quickly with  solid and provocative own product

c)  Back-end sell that list with more own product (for fun and profit).  Product keynote is to stay provocative and try to offer at least something original.  Doesn&#039;t have to be big or fancy.

d)  JV sell other people&#039;s product for a lion&#039;s share of the margin   (i.e. milk the list hard for lots of pure profit)

e)  To come - further ways to monetize (or capitalize?) a large list of proven buyers (affiliate programs + big ticket coaching/teleseminars + ? who knows)

Chris is a smart cookie - and good luck to him.  

PS Who did the sales letter for APX?  It was a classic for the Hall of Fame.  
Couldn&#039;t have been Chris himself - the style and grammar is quite different from the doggerel prose of the APX product - thankfully he had the wit to have DJK script copy edited, because it is much more readable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1  Full disclosure &#8211; I&#8217;m a fan of both APX and DJK &#8211; see my reviews at Squidoo under &#8220;ClickbankProductReviews&#8221;.</p>
<p>2  There&#8217;s an interesting message &#8220;between the lines&#8221; in DJK.  </p>
<p>It is the implicit acknowledgement that the convenient and accessible &#8220;Clickbank+Adwords&#8221; formula is now so competitive that it&#8217;s tough to better break-even on an initial sale (even with name-squeeze + auto-responder followup).  </p>
<p>Inescapable conclusion being that you need: </p>
<p>a) product portfolio and follow-up systems in place to maximize customer value with repeat sales at increasing price points</p>
<p>b) to explore and exploit less competitive marketplaces beyond Clickbank</p>
<p>3  My take on Chris&#8217;s own strategy is that THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST &#8211; so:</p>
<p>a)  Use Adwords to quickly build a list big enough to qualify for JVs.  AdÃ´pt a clear and differentiated &#8220;positioning&#8221; for your marketing style (as did Kelly Felix).  Chris exploits &#8220;bash the establishment/beat the system&#8221; outlaw sentiments. </p>
<p>b)  Use JVs (giving away most of the revenue) to build a BIG list quickly with  solid and provocative own product</p>
<p>c)  Back-end sell that list with more own product (for fun and profit).  Product keynote is to stay provocative and try to offer at least something original.  Doesn&#8217;t have to be big or fancy.</p>
<p>d)  JV sell other people&#8217;s product for a lion&#8217;s share of the margin   (i.e. milk the list hard for lots of pure profit)</p>
<p>e)  To come &#8211; further ways to monetize (or capitalize?) a large list of proven buyers (affiliate programs + big ticket coaching/teleseminars + ? who knows)</p>
<p>Chris is a smart cookie &#8211; and good luck to him.  </p>
<p>PS Who did the sales letter for APX?  It was a classic for the Hall of Fame.<br />
Couldn&#8217;t have been Chris himself &#8211; the style and grammar is quite different from the doggerel prose of the APX product &#8211; thankfully he had the wit to have DJK script copy edited, because it is much more readable.</p>
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