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		<title>By: Ippon Blog Plagiarism With Moves Like A Judo Blackbelt &#124; Andy Beard - Niche Marketing</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-60617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ippon Blog Plagiarism With Moves Like A Judo Blackbelt &#124; Andy Beard - Niche Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Video Roundup &#124; SMX Seattle &#124; Duplicate Content &#124; Jason Calacanis &#124; Andy Beard - Niche Marketing</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-32028</link>
		<dc:creator>Video Roundup &#124; SMX Seattle &#124; Duplicate Content &#124; Jason Calacanis &#124; Andy Beard - Niche Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back into my archives I have written fairly extensively about link attribution and links over time. It had a few bumps but was never Dugg or stumbled, but still ranks first for terms like link [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dane Morgan</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5706</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just recently installed the stumble extension in firefoax and started playing with it. I haven&#039;t really gotten a feel for it yet since so far the community seems to be completely hidden behind the toolbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just recently installed the stumble extension in firefoax and started playing with it. I haven&#8217;t really gotten a feel for it yet since so far the community seems to be completely hidden behind the toolbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5624</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just using GPL for all my content. It is not highly specific about what classes as attribution, but I seem to have always gained some kind of link from it. I hint strongly with the author box. Feel free to use and abuse it ;)

Of all the widgets I have added to this blog, Bumpzee has proven to be my biggest loss of traffic though many of the clicks out may already be subscribers.
People have to leave in one direction or another, plus with tabs, it might not be an exit anyway.

But I am sure Bumpzee has widened my reach and I have gained subscribers.

Also it seems a good time to develop a &quot;Bumpzee culture&quot; - the more readers I have who frequent Bumpzee, the more chance I have of rising above the surface when I write good material, unlike Digg where it is almost impossible to gain traction. That is a long uphill battle. Stumbleupon might be easier and is something I intend to highlight more here soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just using GPL for all my content. It is not highly specific about what classes as attribution, but I seem to have always gained some kind of link from it. I hint strongly with the author box. Feel free to use and abuse it ;)</p>
<p>Of all the widgets I have added to this blog, Bumpzee has proven to be my biggest loss of traffic though many of the clicks out may already be subscribers.<br />
People have to leave in one direction or another, plus with tabs, it might not be an exit anyway.</p>
<p>But I am sure Bumpzee has widened my reach and I have gained subscribers.</p>
<p>Also it seems a good time to develop a &#8220;Bumpzee culture&#8221; &#8211; the more readers I have who frequent Bumpzee, the more chance I have of rising above the surface when I write good material, unlike Digg where it is almost impossible to gain traction. That is a long uphill battle. Stumbleupon might be easier and is something I intend to highlight more here soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane Morgan</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in that plugin, Andy.

I&#039;ve long thought that there is too much emphasis on SERPs position. I understand the reasoning and the rationality behind it, but it&#039;s sort of like making the bible so important you forget about god, to use a religious metaphor.

It is also important to note that the almost manic emphasis we have on SERPs flies in the face of most basic marketing principles such as &quot;People don&#039;t want drills, they want holes&quot;. Really, if all we wanted were SERPs then optimizing out pages for &quot;kjadsfhbdakjghsdf&quot; would be an excellent strategy.

However the point is that when we say we want SERPs what we really want is traffic (and that could go through this process a couple more times at least). So when we step back and look at things a little more closely, most of the time we are going to see that popular sites outranking us in the SERPs actually will bring us much more traffic than we would ever have gotten having the SERPs to ourselves; Provided that these sites link to us as the source.

For one of my recent posts no fewer than three social networks and your blog were outranking me for a search on the title of the post. However, I can&#039;t find a single keyword tool that suggests anyone has ever searched for that title, and I&#039;ve received traffic from all of these sources that outrank me. Trafic I would not have received from that SERP.

As I said before, and will happily say again, They can have the SERP every time if it means a net increase in traffic (and targeted traffic at that, and targeted, &lt;b&gt;referred&lt;/b&gt; traffic to boot) for me.

Now the one caveat to all of this, as you pointed out, the site that&#039;s outranking you &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; be pointing to you as the source for all of this to work out.

I&#039;m getting ready to launch a new internet marketing related blog. One of the things I will be doing with that blog is releasing my content under a Creative Commons &quot;Attribute&quot; license. Which means that people can take the content from that blog and repost it, alter it, make it theirs, repackage and sell it, whatever they want, with the single requirement that they attribute the &lt;b&gt;blog post&lt;/b&gt; as the original source. I&#039;ll be adding some language to the license to control the method and text of the attributions, but it should foster reuse and lead to a lot of deep back links from sources that I fully hope out rank me in the SERPs.

This comment is getting nearly as long as the original post, but one final thought I have for people who might be concerned about this &quot;problem&quot;. I saw BUMPzee in the serps in a few searches I had done, but it was not until I saw a reference to them from a trusted source that I signed up. If that trusted source had out ranked them on some of those searches i might have visited and registered sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in that plugin, Andy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long thought that there is too much emphasis on SERPs position. I understand the reasoning and the rationality behind it, but it&#8217;s sort of like making the bible so important you forget about god, to use a religious metaphor.</p>
<p>It is also important to note that the almost manic emphasis we have on SERPs flies in the face of most basic marketing principles such as &#8220;People don&#8217;t want drills, they want holes&#8221;. Really, if all we wanted were SERPs then optimizing out pages for &#8220;kjadsfhbdakjghsdf&#8221; would be an excellent strategy.</p>
<p>However the point is that when we say we want SERPs what we really want is traffic (and that could go through this process a couple more times at least). So when we step back and look at things a little more closely, most of the time we are going to see that popular sites outranking us in the SERPs actually will bring us much more traffic than we would ever have gotten having the SERPs to ourselves; Provided that these sites link to us as the source.</p>
<p>For one of my recent posts no fewer than three social networks and your blog were outranking me for a search on the title of the post. However, I can&#8217;t find a single keyword tool that suggests anyone has ever searched for that title, and I&#8217;ve received traffic from all of these sources that outrank me. Trafic I would not have received from that SERP.</p>
<p>As I said before, and will happily say again, They can have the SERP every time if it means a net increase in traffic (and targeted traffic at that, and targeted, <b>referred</b> traffic to boot) for me.</p>
<p>Now the one caveat to all of this, as you pointed out, the site that&#8217;s outranking you <b>must</b> be pointing to you as the source for all of this to work out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting ready to launch a new internet marketing related blog. One of the things I will be doing with that blog is releasing my content under a Creative Commons &#8220;Attribute&#8221; license. Which means that people can take the content from that blog and repost it, alter it, make it theirs, repackage and sell it, whatever they want, with the single requirement that they attribute the <b>blog post</b> as the original source. I&#8217;ll be adding some language to the license to control the method and text of the attributions, but it should foster reuse and lead to a lot of deep back links from sources that I fully hope out rank me in the SERPs.</p>
<p>This comment is getting nearly as long as the original post, but one final thought I have for people who might be concerned about this &#8220;problem&#8221;. I saw BUMPzee in the serps in a few searches I had done, but it was not until I saw a reference to them from a trusted source that I signed up. If that trusted source had out ranked them on some of those searches i might have visited and registered sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5447</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the pointers, I&#039;m new around here so i need to be caught up.....

nofollow an dpink boxes makes too much sense ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the pointers, I&#8217;m new around here so i need to be caught up&#8230;..</p>
<p>nofollow an dpink boxes makes too much sense ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5444</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All types of reasons for all kinds of things
On linking structure, I suppose these 2 posts cover a lot
http://andybeard.eu/2006/10/revenge-of-the-mininet-3rd-party-content-blog-comments-no-follow.html
http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/toolbar-pagerank-ball-linking.html

On this blog I am doing things differently to what is recommended in Revenge of the Mininet because I like experimenting, and also because of relevance and a few things I have noted about tags.

For info on the subscribe buttons

http://andybeard.eu/2006/12/nofollow-and-pink-boxes.html

I am probably going to create a version of Sociable 2.0 with real  dynamic links rather than using nofollow and make it available for download tomorrow if you care to wait. I didn&#039;t manage to persuade the author to include nofollow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All types of reasons for all kinds of things<br />
On linking structure, I suppose these 2 posts cover a lot<br />
<a href="http://andybeard.eu/2006/10/revenge-of-the-mininet-3rd-party-content-blog-comments-no-follow.html">http://andybeard.eu/2006/10/revenge-of-the-mininet-3rd-party-content-blog-comments-no-follow.html</a><br />
<a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/toolbar-pagerank-ball-linking.html">http://andybeard.eu/2007/01/toolbar-pagerank-ball-linking.html</a></p>
<p>On this blog I am doing things differently to what is recommended in Revenge of the Mininet because I like experimenting, and also because of relevance and a few things I have noted about tags.</p>
<p>For info on the subscribe buttons</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/2006/12/nofollow-and-pink-boxes.html">http://andybeard.eu/2006/12/nofollow-and-pink-boxes.html</a></p>
<p>I am probably going to create a version of Sociable 2.0 with real  dynamic links rather than using nofollow and make it available for download tomorrow if you care to wait. I didn&#8217;t manage to persuade the author to include nofollow.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5440</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, I noticed your creative use of nofollow here.  Like you nofollow the huge &quot;anybeal&quot; go home link on every page and the subscribe buttons etc.

any rhyme or reason? 

If you have explained it already in your archives just point me a link.

I think maybe I&#039;ll try the nofollow on my subscribe buttons etc. no need to pass link love along to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, I noticed your creative use of nofollow here.  Like you nofollow the huge &#8220;anybeal&#8221; go home link on every page and the subscribe buttons etc.</p>
<p>any rhyme or reason? </p>
<p>If you have explained it already in your archives just point me a link.</p>
<p>I think maybe I&#8217;ll try the nofollow on my subscribe buttons etc. no need to pass link love along to that.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5434</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have more faith in search engines than i do, or more faith in you ability to rank than I do ;-)

fascinating article.  thanks for the mention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have more faith in search engines than i do, or more faith in you ability to rank than I do ;-)</p>
<p>fascinating article.  thanks for the mention</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/403/how-timing-of-link-attribution-affects-syndication-and-search-results.html#comment-5430</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy thanks for mentioning and most important for contributing to the discussion on my blog. I actually planing to recommend you and things you do to my readers in more coherent fashion (this may take long time :) ). Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy thanks for mentioning and most important for contributing to the discussion on my blog. I actually planing to recommend you and things you do to my readers in more coherent fashion (this may take long time :) ). Thanks again!</p>
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