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		<title>By: www.firelead.com</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/509/comment-system-changed-no-more-cookies.html#comment-7711</link>
		<dc:creator>www.firelead.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy
I recently was getting pounded by spam from trackback&#039;s as well and found that the spam was eliminated to ZERO after I implemented a .htaccess block on a list of known TOR routers.  I posted the list here: http://www.firelead.com/2007/03/14/getting-rid-of-trackback-spam/
I have had a comment from Vlad that he was concerned about me blocking out legitimate IP addresses with that list...I have thought about it and I will see how it turns out.  If it turns into an issue I might reconsider - but we&#039;ll see.  
Cheers
Peter Kleitsch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy<br />
I recently was getting pounded by spam from trackback&#8217;s as well and found that the spam was eliminated to ZERO after I implemented a .htaccess block on a list of known TOR routers.  I posted the list here: <a href="http://www.firelead.com/2007/03/14/getting-rid-of-trackback-spam/">http://www.firelead.com/2007/03/14/getting-rid-of-trackback-spam/</a><br />
I have had a comment from Vlad that he was concerned about me blocking out legitimate IP addresses with that list&#8230;I have thought about it and I will see how it turns out.  If it turns into an issue I might reconsider &#8211; but we&#8217;ll see.<br />
Cheers<br />
Peter Kleitsch</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expressed my own thoughts on Akismet and collective intelligence quite recently
http://andybeard.eu/2007/02/akismet-the-danger-of-collective-intelligence-and-why-i-dont-use-it.html

I have been using spam karma for some time.

It has only made one mess up, where someone posted a second comment immediately after being caught by a filter after a long chain of comments in a heated debate - Spam Karma counts numbers of posts to expect over a period of time from the same person as one criteria.

It can actually use Akismet as well as another filter, although I have never needed it.

Currently this blog is below the radar on spam, only 300 spam comments per day - my biggest problem are the manual spam, but they get spanked and banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expressed my own thoughts on Akismet and collective intelligence quite recently<br />
<a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/02/akismet-the-danger-of-collective-intelligence-and-why-i-dont-use-it.html">http://andybeard.eu/2007/02/akismet-the-danger-of-collective-intelligence-and-why-i-dont-use-it.html</a></p>
<p>I have been using spam karma for some time.</p>
<p>It has only made one mess up, where someone posted a second comment immediately after being caught by a filter after a long chain of comments in a heated debate &#8211; Spam Karma counts numbers of posts to expect over a period of time from the same person as one criteria.</p>
<p>It can actually use Akismet as well as another filter, although I have never needed it.</p>
<p>Currently this blog is below the radar on spam, only 300 spam comments per day &#8211; my biggest problem are the manual spam, but they get spanked and banned.</p>
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		<title>By: apotheon</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/509/comment-system-changed-no-more-cookies.html#comment-7578</link>
		<dc:creator>apotheon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw the old comment system, never having visited this weblog before yesterday, but this one seems decent enough.

Now, for the tangent . . .

As you might have noticed if you&#039;ve seen my own weblog post from yesterday:
http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=214
. . . I&#039;ve had an on-again, off-again love-to-hate-it relationship with the Akismet plugin for Wordpress.  The very proprietary nature of the back end, and the privacy-threatening mechanism on which it operates, serve as effective deterrents for contributing any development effort to improving the plugin.  I also find the strong potential for false positives in the Akismet spam filtering process, coupled with the piss-poor interface for double-checking the contents of the queue for false positives, to be a pretty severe shortcoming.

It&#039;s always nice to see that someone else &quot;gets it&quot;, with regard to filtering systems controlled by off-site, third party heuristic methodologies.  I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve missed a few false positives &quot;caught&quot; by the Akismet filter during the time that I recently used it to &quot;solve&quot; my spam trackback issue.  I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve solved that via a less discomfiting manner.  I&#039;m pretty sure my current answer is no less likely to result in loss of legitimate trackbacks through false positives, but at least it&#039;s not affecting all comments.

I&#039;m still looking into other options, as well.  It&#039;s just a race at this point between my ability to find better solutions for WordPress and my motivation to create my own weblog platform from scratch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw the old comment system, never having visited this weblog before yesterday, but this one seems decent enough.</p>
<p>Now, for the tangent . . .</p>
<p>As you might have noticed if you&#8217;ve seen my own weblog post from yesterday:<br />
<a href="http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=214">http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=214</a><br />
. . . I&#8217;ve had an on-again, off-again love-to-hate-it relationship with the Akismet plugin for WordPress.  The very proprietary nature of the back end, and the privacy-threatening mechanism on which it operates, serve as effective deterrents for contributing any development effort to improving the plugin.  I also find the strong potential for false positives in the Akismet spam filtering process, coupled with the piss-poor interface for double-checking the contents of the queue for false positives, to be a pretty severe shortcoming.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always nice to see that someone else &#8220;gets it&#8221;, with regard to filtering systems controlled by off-site, third party heuristic methodologies.  I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve missed a few false positives &#8220;caught&#8221; by the Akismet filter during the time that I recently used it to &#8220;solve&#8221; my spam trackback issue.  I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;ve solved that via a less discomfiting manner.  I&#8217;m pretty sure my current answer is no less likely to result in loss of legitimate trackbacks through false positives, but at least it&#8217;s not affecting all comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still looking into other options, as well.  It&#8217;s just a race at this point between my ability to find better solutions for WordPress and my motivation to create my own weblog platform from scratch.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/509/comment-system-changed-no-more-cookies.html#comment-7055</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad it is working for you now.

I was prepared to rip out the code even based on the fact that one user had reported problems (and I am glad you told me) that couldn&#039;t be fixed easily. Today I received a second message from someone who seemed to have similar problems and the code was ripped out a few minutes later.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad it is working for you now.</p>
<p>I was prepared to rip out the code even based on the fact that one user had reported problems (and I am glad you told me) that couldn&#8217;t be fixed easily. Today I received a second message from someone who seemed to have similar problems and the code was ripped out a few minutes later.</p>
<p>Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://andybeard.eu/509/comment-system-changed-no-more-cookies.html#comment-7053</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

Well, this commenting system seems to work fine now. Pity about the problems with the cookie-system. It sounded like a good idea, but didn&#039;t seem to work well.

Good luck with the spam filtering

Owen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>Well, this commenting system seems to work fine now. Pity about the problems with the cookie-system. It sounded like a good idea, but didn&#8217;t seem to work well.</p>
<p>Good luck with the spam filtering</p>
<p>Owen</p>
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