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		<title>Stompernet Site Seer &#8211; Ripped Apart</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=seer2">Site Seer</a> is totally free, other than requiring registration. Is it worth handing over your email address?

Comparisons are bound to be made with the many free tools available from SEOmoz and SEObook, some of which are purely online services, and others are browser plugins. Many of the SEOmoz tools also require registration, and some are under the hood of their paid membership, especially tools which provide long term analysis of both your own site, and that of competitors.

<h3>How Far Will Stompernet Move The Free Line with Site Seer?</h3>

Brad Fallon and Andy Jenkins are among the most astute marketers I have ever come into contact with. They want your email address, they are going to use it for marketing their products and select partners, and they are going to a lot of effort to get you to give them permission to do so.

My hope is that they will continue development of Site Seer to make it more useful, and thus retain as many referrals as possible. I am a Stompernet affiliate, by referring my readers to them I want them to provide incredible value even in their free material.

So far Stompernet Site Seer shows promise, but is certainly not without its flaws

So on with this review...]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=seer2">Stomper Site Seer</a> is totally free, other than requiring registration. Is it worth handing over your email address?</p>
<p>Comparisons are bound to be made with the many free tools available from SEOmoz and SEObook, some of which are purely online services, and others are browser plugins. Many of the SEOmoz tools also require registration, and some are under the hood of their paid membership, especially tools which provide long term analysis of both your own site, and that of competitors.</p>
<h3>How Far Will Stompernet Move The Free Line with Stomper Site Seer?</h3>
<p>Brad Fallon and Andy Jenkins are among the most astute marketers I have ever come into contact with. They want your email address, they are going to use it for marketing their products and select partners, and they are going to a lot of effort to get you to give them permission to do so.</p>
<p>My hope is that they will continue development of Site Seer to make it more useful, and thus retain as many referrals as possible. I am a Stompernet affiliate, by referring my readers to them I want them to provide incredible value even in their free material.</p>
<p>So far Stompernet Site Seer shows promise, but is certainly not without its flaws</p>
<p>So on with this review&#8230;</p>
<h3>White on Green</h3>
<p>The reports are quite small white text on a green background. Whilst my eyes aren&#8217;t perfect, I have never needed glasses, but I found the current design hard to scan &#038; tiring on the eyes.<br />
The easy solution was to switch off CSS using the web developer toolbar.</p>
<p>With or without the CSS I found it hard to determine what each section was really about. </p>
<h3>One Page</h3>
<p>When you setup a report, you provide a domain, plus a number of keywords.</p>
<p>My home page isn&#8217;t really intended to rank for anything highly competitive, in fact this whole blog ranks well in both the main Google search results and blog search whilst doing almost every factor other than page titles totally wrong.</p>
<p>Just an immediate example are current results for Site Seer.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/site-seer-google-serps.png' alt='Site Seer Google Search results' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/stompernet-site-seer-review.png' alt='Site Seer in Google Blog Search' /></p>
<p>I gain quality links on a regular basis, and ensure juice flows to the parts of my site that need it, but so far I am not optimizing this site extensively in a traditional manner.</p>
<p>Thus I provided just a few keywords, and expected Site Seer to do the following:-</p>
<ul>
<li>Scrape each search engine for current rankings for each keyword</li>
<li>Scrape top ranking pages for each keyword</li>
<li>Compare various on page and off page factors of my pages compared to competitors</li>
<li>Monitor various ranking factors of my site over time, and that of my competitors</li>
</ul>
<p>Unfortunately Stompernet Site Seer isn&#8217;t currently as sophisticated as I had hoped. When I entered andybeard.eu as my domain, and a few keywords, my home page was analysed based upon purely my home page.</p>
<h3>Presence On Various Sites</h3>
<p>The first section of site analysis are various links to perform site searches. Fairly basic stuff. As well as various search engines, there are also links for various other useful sites such as PRWeb and Ezine Articles.</p>
<p>There is actually a bug in some of these links. WWW is being prepended on any domain, thus whilst search engines can cope with that to a greater or lesser degree, it doesn&#8217;t work at all for PRWeb and EzineArticles if you decided to make your canonical URLs without www.<br />
It is actually interesting that for some reason Google is no longer treating www.andybeard.eu and andybeard.eu the same for site searches. The site:www.andybeard.eu command comes up with no results. This might be a by product of them switching site searches to use Google custom search, but I had though that was only when you use Adsense for search.</p>
<p>This section also has 8 free videos &#8211; I must admit I haven&#8217;t watched them all yet.</p>
<h3>On Page SEO Analysis</h3>
<p>The first section is a site analysis using Google&#8217;s Adword&#8217;s API</p>
<blockquote><p>
This is an interesting and sometimes surprising report for many site owners. We analyze your page through the Google API and determine what &#8220;topics / silos&#8221; Google thinks your site is about.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The results from the API are effectively the same as can be obtained manually using the <a href="https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal">Google Adwords External Keyword Tool</a></p>
<p>It is actually very useful, for landing page keyword research, as you can see in this video from Ryan Deiss a couple of months ago.</p>
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<small><a href="http://drivingtraffic.com/the-google-sneak-attack/">Google Sneak attack</a></small></p>
<p><b>How valuable is this for SEO?</b></p>
<p>The important thing to remember is this is not really related to siloing. The Adwords tool gives you keywords related to the page, or if you so instruct, also including related words to the pages linked from a page.<br />
It is more useful in competitive analysis &#8211; this information will allow you to quickly spot which keyword terms they are aiming for, and <b>which ones they should be aiming for</b></p>
<p>If you want to be really sneaky, and they have an affiliate program which you can track at keyword level, try joining their affiliate program and throw some traffic at various landing pages <b>on your competitors site</b> to test various keywords they are using before you even build your own.</p>
<p>Unfortunately what this doesn&#8217;t really do is give you &#8220;<i>topics / silos Google thinks your site is about</i>&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Why?</b></p>
<p><strong>First of all, for on page it is only dealing with a single page</strong>, or at best a page, plus pages linked from that page &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t cover your whole site. When I point Site Seer at my home page, it doesn&#8217;t come back to say my site is about lifestreaming, blog widgets, Mybloglog, Blogcatalog etc, but most of my readers are aware that I cover those topics, and it is more than the occasional mention.</p>
<p>This might be due to bugs currently in the Adwords keyword tool. On Friday night / Saturday morning there was an Adwords tool update of some kind. The results from Site Seer that I obtained were quite strange&#8230;</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/leather-belts.png' alt='Leather Belts' /></p>
<p>Those are the top level groupings, with other keywords displayed as&#8230;</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/custom-buckles.png' alt='Site Seer Adwords Results' /></p>
<p><strong>Secondly, the tool cannot take into consideration topical authority based on external SEO factors </strong>- whilst you can claim your content to be on a certain topic, for Google it is important to take into account the &#8220;status&#8221; your site holds within both your area of topical authority, and references from sites of high authority of more general importance.</p>
<p><strong>Thirdly, there is internal linking</strong> &#8211; this can add as much or more weight to a page than links from external sources, especially for pages that tend to be more sales related, and less likely to generate natural linkage. On product specific promotions within the internet marketing niche, I can rank highly without any SEO effort &#8211; no link building required, because of built up authority, and the power of internal linking. Sometimes I even get quite notable links for which I am very greatful for, though because of the short term nature of many promotions, the link equity is more useful for future promotions.</p>
<p>Lastly, the Google Adwords API will return results for a page even if it hasn&#8217;t been indexed. To prove this point I grabbed the start of this article, pasted it into an HTML page, even without any meta data, and pointed the Adwords Keyword tool at the page &#8211; it returned tons of related, albeit generic keywords.<br />
It didn&#8217;t return product specific terms such as Stompernet. Want to see for yourself? Here is the <a href="http://andybeard.eu/test-file.html" rel="nofollow">page</a> (nofollowed)</p>
<p>Thus whilst I am sure the Stompernet guys are aware of this, after all people using PPC can get great quality scores on totally new domains which haven&#8217;t even been indexed, the description is a little ambiguous.</p>
<h3>Meta Analysis</h3>
<p>I have nothing really to object to regarding the meta tag analysis &#8211; they provide a good deal of instructional information.<br />
They did forget to mention blocking DMOZ descriptions</p>
<p>I am <b>currently</b> a little bit of a maverick regarding meta descriptions. I have used them on this site in the past, but there is a major problem. Some of my more popular posts have so many trackbacks on the permalinks, that invariably even when I used a unique meta description, Google in its wisdom used part of a trackback. They did that even when half the trackback was in Chinese. The reason is that trackbacks often have the title of the link to post in them. Thus at the end of each page is always a fairly high occurrence of whatever I included as the title of my article, and Google seem to pick that content up no matter what I do to try to correct it.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Stomper Analysis of your Meta Keywords<br />
# Your site has no description. Indicated to have one!<br />
# You have included too many Meta Keywords<br />
This page has 107 meta keywords.<br />
# Your Meta Description is too short.<br />
It is 0 characters, it is suggested to expand it to at least 150 characters.</p>
<p>Stomper Analysis of your Meta Keywords Continued&#8230;<br />
Meta Keywords: Of the keywords that you entered, here is a list of what is included / missing:</p>
<p>   1. wordpress seo INCLUDED in meta keywords.<br />
   2. niche marketing NOT INCLUDED<br />
   3. linking structure NOT INCLUDED<br />
   4. pagerank update NOT INCLUDED<br />
   5. seo siloing NOT INCLUDED
</p></blockquote>
<p>I am obviously a failure&#8230; but other than the niche marketing keyword the pages ranking for the terms generally have the term in the meta keywords. It is just they have applied my home page to all.</p>
<p>Currently I just have a load of tags being added automatically depending on what is on my front page. As and when I switch to a more formal front page, I will probably change that and keep it to core categories.</p>
<h3>Headings Analysis &#038; Image Alt Text</h3>
<p>They spot what h1 h2 and h3 headings you use, and which images are missing alt text. It seems to work.</p>
<h3>Sitemaps</h3>
<p>Apparently they check to see if you have a sitemap. Here is <a rel="nofollow" href="http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/sitemap.xml.gz">my sitemap</a> which they found. The observant among you will notice from the headers being sent that that page returns a 404 not found.</p>
<p>This feature currently gets a 0/5 as it is clearly broken.</p>
<h3>The Off-page Value Report</h3>
<p>This is mainly quite basic stuff, pulling numbers from Google and Yahoo site explorer. Of note is that my number of indexed pages has been jumping around quite a bit in recent days, maybe they are picking up more tag pages again.</p>
<p>Yahoo seem to be reporting a lot more backlinks than they have in the past.</p>
<p>The tool found me in DMOZ, not in Yahoo (no I am not paying $300 for a link I don&#8217;t need from a dubious reviewer) and Alexa well bleh&#8230;</p>
<h3>Social Media</h3>
<p>The social media results rely on APIs, and it is possible they haven&#8217;t included error checking</p>
<p>No returns from Technorati or Delicious &#8211; this is most clearly a blog and I do have a reasonable listing in Technorati, and a few people have bookmarked various pages on Delicious.</p>
<p><small>Note: if you fancy bookmarking a few of my posts, this one on <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/06/wordpress-seo-masterclass-for-competitive-niches.html">WordPress SEO</a> is worthwhile, and people are still making these <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/11/seo-linking-gotchas-even-the-pros-make.html">linking gotchas</a>, and <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/06/linking-mistakes.html">linking mistakes.</a></small></p>
<h3>Keywords</h3>
<p>The keyword analysis is of course quite telling. I rank for all kinds of things that people are not searching for, including the keywords I entered into Stompernet Site Seer.</p>
<h3>SEO Myths</h3>
<p>The reports finish off with 10 common SEO myths which many will find valuable, though they weren&#8217;t presented very clearly</p>
<h3>Stomper Site Seer &#8211; Long Term Potential</h3>
<p>When one of my competitors jumps ahead of me in the SERPs, wouldn&#8217;t it be great to know it was because of a number of new links they received, or because they changed something in their site structure.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want this on just one page, I want it on multiple pages, though a few good landing pages to start</p>
<p>How feasible this level of monitoring is in practice is another thing</p>
<ul>
<li>On page not too hard</li>
<li>Position in the SERPs again not too hard</li>
<li>Incoming links &#8211; very hard to do with any reliability</li>
<li>Internal linking structure &#8211; possibly hard depending on site &#8211; every time I use the SEO tag more than 100 internal links change.</li>
</ul>
<p>The guys at <a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=seer2">Stompernet have the financial resources and the geeks to do this kind of thing</a>, and probably the desire as well. Whether they will give the full thing away is another matter, but even a cut down version would be nice.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want  to spend time micromanaging stats, even though I am a stats junkie &#8211; Google only seem to tell you what they want you to know.</p>
<h3>Summing Up Stompernet Site Seer</h3>
<ul>
<li>It provides some very easy &#8220;lazy statistics&#8221;</li>
<li>It can currently be used for 5 websites&#8230; or pages &#8211; it can already be used to keep tabs on competitors</li>
<li>You gain access to 23 new instructional videos explaining every step of the site evaluation</li>
<li>The Stompernet faculty is made up of people I consider as mentors &#8211; these guys are good &#8211; whilst you should always look for alternative point of view, they know what they are doing.</li>
<li>It is <a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=seer2">100% free of charge</a></li>
</ul>
<p>My personal opinion is it is well worth signing up. <a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=seer2">Just being on the email list</a> and experiencing product launches is a huge learning experience.</p>
<p>I have been enjoying looking at my referral stats at this end, even though they are a little disappointing. One reason I like promoting Stompernet are the affiliate tools, totally custom made.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At the end of last year Donna wrote &#034;<a href="http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/12/31/some-days-i-wish-this-blog-were-private-so-i-could-share-more/">Some Days I Wish This Blog Were Private So I Could Share More</a>&#034; giving some vague but interesting hints as to how certain links can give a site a boost, and how the benefit of those links decreases if they are removed at a later date.</p>
<p>This was especially significant for me at the time, because I was struggling with a problem which I couldn&#039;t solve.</p>
<p>A few days later 5ubliminal posted, &#034;<a href="http://www.tellinya.com/read/2008/01/07/275.html">If I Told You&#8230; I&#039;d Have To Kill You</a>&#034; - a simlar idea, again specific to SEO techniques but with</p>]]></description>
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<p>At the end of last year Donna wrote &#8220;<a href="http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/12/31/some-days-i-wish-this-blog-were-private-so-i-could-share-more/">Some Days I Wish This Blog Were Private So I Could Share More</a>&#8221; giving some vague but interesting hints as to how certain links can give a site a boost, and how the benefit of those links decreases if they are removed at a later date.</p>
<p>This was especially significant for me at the time, because I was struggling with a problem which I couldn&#8217;t solve.</p>
<p>A few days later 5ubliminal posted, &#8220;<a href="http://www.tellinya.com/read/2008/01/07/275.html">If I Told You&#8230; I&#8217;d Have To Kill You</a>&#8221; &#8211; a simlar idea, again specific to SEO techniques but with a few hints to how you can work out what others are up to&#8230; without them telling you.</p>
<h3>My End Of year Problem</h3>
<p>Lots of sites were publishing their year end stats, showing which were their most popular posts for the year, traffic numbers etc, and many of them were missing one, and in many cases many important statistics that can be used to determine the success of a particular post.</p>
<p><b>I didn&#8217;t post a yearly roundup &#8211; it would have been a lie</b></p>
<p>I know which are my most successful posts based upon various metrics, and the metrics I use are in many cases different to the metrics other people use, and I can use them for <b>competitive intelligence</b></p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t prepared to write a post highlighting my most popular posts for the year, or the ones I wanted to highlight, if I couldn&#8217;t be 100% honest about my methods.</p>
<h3>Scribd</h3>
<p>The changes Scribd made after the revealing <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2008/01/stompernet-smarts.html">Stompernet videos</a> were really the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back. If you release information without a great deal of restraint on how that information should be used, it can cause problems, and sometimes various tactics and methods stop working, or are prevented from working.</p>
<h3>Release The Information In Private?</h3>
<p>This is one option I have considered &#8211; it would be easy to set up a membership site, or use a report such as this just for list building, or even give it to a number of membership sites I am a member of as a bonus, but that introduces secondary problems.</p>
<p><b>I am not a programmer</b></p>
<p>I have worked with programming teams for years, but I can only tinker with code these days. If I released the information to just a few hundred, or possibly a few thousand, there would be 2 very specific problems.</p>
<ul>
<li>Only about 10% of the people receiving the information would be able to do anything useful with it &#8211; this stuff is a little bit technical, and even once I have all my data together it takes time playing around in excel to really benefit from it, and realise the significance.</li>
<li>My limited use of these methods flies under the radar &#8211; if you have a few 100, or 1000 people mining the same data, it would throw up a huge red flag, quite needlessly, as many would be looking for data on exactly the same websites.</li>
</ul>
<p>If I make the information available, the ideal solution would be</p>
<ul>
<li>A 20 page report</li>
<li>A viable proxy based extraction and storage system for compiling data</li>
<li>Various tools, possibly in Excel, to make manipulating the data relatively easy for less technical folk</li>
</ul>
<h3>Oh, Andy Is Going To Sell An Ebook?</h3>
<p>Ebooks work for newbie stuff and basic training, or techniques that get hyped but are not necessarily for your average users (even if they are effective)</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t something I want to hype about, and it certainly isn&#8217;t basic training</p>
<p>The financial model just wouldn&#8217;t cover the development costs</p>
<p>I could also include it in a membership site of my own, but it isn&#8217;t something that would stand on its own, I need a lot more time to get together complimentary materials.</p>
<p>With the new year people are planning their course of action for 2008, and this would prove a benefit for their content planning strategy.</p>
<h3>Content For Your Membership Site or Agency</h3>
<p>Do you remember the days before the junk peddlers of private label rights and bundled master resale rights products when content really had value?</p>
<p>These days the people who create exceptional content only provide it via higher end membership sites, and most, but not all of the ebooks are beginners guides &#8211; they can still be good value, but that isn&#8217;t the kind of content I want to create.</p>
<p>Over the last year writing this blog I have received a number of proposals of various kinds from membership site owners looking for specialist content, which is why I am considering a slight return to the old ways of providing content to a limited number of partners for a fee that is just a &#8220;drop in the ocean&#8221; compared to the fees members pay for access to great content, and certainly much better value than retaining me on a permanent basis.</p>
<p><b>Price &#8211; contact me by email for details</b> &#8211; I expect to spend up to $5000 on development of the scripts and tools, though depending on the way they are designed, I might also have to provide hosting. I would much prefer to have a comfortable budget for development than to be scraping the barrel.<br />
On top of that I will also be offering support if you provide me access to your member area &#8211; there is certainly some 2-way benefit </p>
<p>Initially I am not going to set a specific limit on numbers, but ideally I would like to have the report and tools made available to between 10 and 20 membership sites or agencies</p>
<p>I am including search marketing agencies, because they often have lots of people working with clients with whom they want to share tools and reports. Hopefully a few of the more popular SEO membership sites will pick this up anyway, so small agencies can benefit from their existing memberships, but for larger corporations it would probably be best to purchase your own license.</p>
<p><b>For further details and possibly a few examples those who have my email can just email me, or you can just use my <a href="http://andybeard.eu/contact">contact form</a></b></p>
<p><b>I am going to be selective about where this information and tools will be made available</b></p>
<p>To finish, just one example:-</p>
<p>Which one post was my most successful in 2007? This isn&#8217;t 100% accurate because like with all statistical measures there can be extenuating circumstances that mess with the data, and using this method there are frequent occurances within the top10, in much the same way a front page Digg can make a blog seem more popular than it really is.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/02/the-tale-of-little-linkalot-and-some-blogging-thoughts.html">The Tale of Little Linkalot and Some Blogging Thoughts</a> where I actually linked through to another one of Donna&#8217;s posts, &#8220;<a href="http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/02/06/the-tale-of-little-linkalot/">The Tale of Little Linkalot</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>If you can work out why I regard that (based on this method) as my most successful post, a &#8220;cornerstone&#8221; or in some ways &#8220;tipping point&#8221;, bully for you, but don&#8217;t go spreading it around too much ;)<br />
Even if you can work it out, you are going to appreciate a 20 page report on how to use this method to share with your members or clients, and the tools to go with it.</p>
<p>I could have just written a short blog post with my top 50 stories of 2007, provided details for compiling the data, and a very rough excel spreadsheet and a few charts, but it would not be very usable for the majority of non-programming geeks, and the method would be burned or limited within a few hours or days.</p>
<p>Why burn a great method just for a few links?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>I am writing this article because I keep on being asked the same questions, not with the intention of beating the drum about Blogrush, or to promote my referral link. In fact you won&#039;t even find my referral link in this article. Go and use someone else&#039;s, or look at one of my previous articles.</p>
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<p>There has been a lot of criticism thrown at Blogrush and very few of the reports I have read really took any time to analyse how Blogrush is currently working using 3rd party tracking tools.</p>
<p>I am writing this article because I keep on being asked the same questions, not with the intention of beating the drum about Blogrush, or to promote my referral link. In fact you won&#8217;t even find my referral link in this article. Go and use someone else&#8217;s, or look at one of my previous articles.</p>
<p>I thought about <a href="http://www.copyblogger.com/link-right">adding some &#8220;notice me&#8221; links</a> in this post (that was more just to say thanks), but that isn&#8217;t my style.</p>
<p>Lots of the people who have been making mistakes in their professional analysis in theory subscribe to my blog, thus I am not going to single them out.<br />
There have been a lot of anti-hype articles, and I also still have some reservations, but that doesn&#8217;t justify articles full of criticism that don&#8217;t contain facts, or contain interpretation of facts that are so obviously full of mistakes, I am amazed they were written by the person credited.</p>
<p>I thought I would show you a little bit of proof that Blogrush sends traffic to small blogs.</p>
<p>First of all here is the traffic to my WordPress Plugins site which hasn&#8217;t really been touched for 12 months.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/wpplugins-referrers.png' alt='wpplugins referral traffic' /></p>
<p>So that is 60 readers, and 131 page views since Blogrush launched &#8211; the site is 2 years old, PR5, so it does get a little seasonal search traffic, which is picking up this time of year.</p>
<p>Here are the stats from Blogrush</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/wppluginsinfo-blogrush.png' alt='Blogrush referrers' /></p>
<p>So when I took that screenshot earlier yesterday to show to someone, I had had 5 referrers. I should have possibly waited with my screenshot, it is actually 75 readers, 179 views and 10 clicks through from Blogrush.</p>
<h3>That Doesn&#8217;t Mean I Had A Great CTR</h3>
<p>That blog hasn&#8217;t only received 149 credits, it has gained lots of bonus credits, though it is impossible to tell how many.</p>
<p>Many people really didn&#8217;t understand this message on the stats page.</p>
<blockquote><p>Special Note: All Members are currently receiving BONUS CREDITS that are not yet reflected in these statistics.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your referral credits are not being used currently&#8230; there is no way to allocate them if you have multiple blogs.</p>
<p>Some blogs are in categories where they can&#8217;t use all the credits they have been generating.</p>
<p>John Reese said in an email to members yesterday (summarized) CTR problems can be solved with:-</p>
<ol>
<li>Better titles, and gave some great examples</li>
<li>More categories are needed for better targeting &#8211; also of note in that point is that if you have people averaging 0.5% CTR, the widget itself is averaging 2.5% CTR &#8211; that is a conceptual difference people might not realise.</li>
<li>Fraud &#8211; expect a big clamp down and permanent bans &#8211; I hope people weren&#8217;t being evil and expecting to get away with it.</li>
</ol>
<p>I am not going to show off a load of referrals, though I have got quite a few. I am also even more happy that my downline have got referrals and are benefiting from the free credits in the system. Not everyone has had great success, there are some inherent problems, but these things will be ironed out.</p>
<p>Here is an easy way to understand this.</p>
<p>A few people are referring to Blogrush as a pyramid scheme</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/referrals.png' alt='Pyramid scheme' /></p>
<p>However there isn&#8217;t any money changing hands, and there is another problem with their theory. What happens with all the excess inventory that isn&#8217;t spoken for by referral credits?</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/free-credits.png' alt='Free Credits' /></p>
<p>Until the referral matrix gets deeper than 10 levels, and referral credits are actually used, there are a lot of spare credits that need to be assigned to something, and those are the credits that created additional visitors to my plugins site.</p>
<p>Lots of the high traffic blogs are in the top level of the referral structure, so there will always be a large amount of these free credits. Blogrush had a very explosive start, and there are 100s if not 1000s of blogs in the top level.</p>
<p>A blog with 30,000 pageviews per day in the top level is generating 150,000 RSS impressions, but only gaining 30,000 for itself. Blogrush use 10% to cover their costs.</p>
<p>That leaves <b>105,000 credits per day</b> for Blogrush to hand out for free. They are not being handed out to an upline that doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>I have no specific details of how the credits are being shared out, but it seems smaller blogs are receiving windfalls (in my estimate) of 1000 credits or more per day.</p>
<h3>The Blackhat Threat</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/blog-rush-3-fatal-reasons-to-nuke-it-right-now.html">Alex Goad pinged me</a> about some of the blackhat games that Blogrush faces. It is true, but I wouldn&#8217;t class any venture by John Reese as low hanging fruit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/09/19/what-are-your-blogrush-statistics-like/">Over on Problogger</a> John Reese has stated:-</p>
<blockquote><p>
That&#8217;s for all the great feedback.  We&#8217;re working really hard to make some &#8220;must needed&#8221; improvements due to some unforseen issues we&#8217;ve encountered.  Fraud has really hurt us in the early going and is dilluting the CTRs across the entire network.  <b>We&#8217;re moving to a 100% Manual Review Process and this will not only eliminate most of the cheaters but will also eliminate all the low-quality blogs in the network.</b>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t doubt for a minute whether John has the resources to hire 10 or 20 people to manually review every single site if that becomes necessary, but lots of tools are fairly easy to create to make the process much more efficient.</p>
<p>Lots of people have asked me about what traffic I have received. It has possibly decreased over the last couple of days due to the spamming, but here is a screenshot I took yesterday.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/mybloglog-blogrush-referrers.jpg' alt='Blogrush referrers from Mybloglog stats' /></p>
<p>So we don&#8217;t just trust MyBlogLog tracking, we also should compare it to another source. Google Analytics will do for this purpose.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/blogrush-google-analytics.png' alt='Google Analytics Blogrush Traffic' /></p>
<p>I actually waited for a day so that the Google Analytics data could be compared.</p>
<p>How to see this in Google Analytics?</p>
<ol>
<li>Go to Traffic Sources >> All Traffic Sources</li>
<li>Find source medium [containing] widget.blogrush.com</li>
<li>Click on what is probably just a single result listing containing the combined referrals</li>
</ol>
<p>Now whilst there is an obvious decline, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean it is all caused by spammers. It might also mean that the free credits in the system are being applied differently, or that they are being spread thinner.<br />
If they are being spread thinner, that actually makes me happy, because that means more of my referrals are gaining a little free traffic. Maybe it is just an extra 10 visitors per day, but when you have less than 100 visitors per day, that is significant if it is targeted.</p>
<p>The decline can also be caused by articles that are just not compelling enough for people to click on them. I am sure this article will not receive a lot of traffic, and will probably only be read by my regular readers.</p>
<p><b>I don&#8217;t write articles specifically to get high traffic from every single one. I just try to provide useful information and title it appropriately.</b></p>
<p>I have lots of referrals, and so do many of my downline, but those credits are not being used currently, because there is no interface to allocate them.<br />
<img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/blogrush-impressions.png' alt='Blogrush credits used' /></p>
<p>My guesstimate is that I have probably had 15,000 to 20,000 impressions so far.</p>
<ul>
<li>Do your own testing and tracking</li>
<li>Compare it to the value of screen real estate</li>
<li>Decide whether it works for you</li>
<li>Give it some time, and think of your readers (sharing traffic is good for you)</li>
</ul>
<h3>Update</h3>
<p>John Reese responded to the discussion on <a href="http://www.netfrontiermarketing.com/blog-rush-3-fatal-reasons-to-nuke-it-right-now.html">Alex&#8217;s Blogrush post</a> with a couple of comments, one explaining the algorithm a little explaining why Blogrush shouldn&#8217;t be looked on as a Pyramid or Ponzi scheme (all credits in the system are earned, nothing is projected forward, upwards allocation of credit), but also made the following statement which I feel is very significant.</p>
<blockquote><p>
The only reason some impressions are â€œheld backâ€ and not immediately delivered are because the system continues to â€˜adjustâ€™ based on the network size itself, as well as how many members in each category â€” because we serve each membersâ€™ credits in the category they choose. There â€˜canâ€™ be an imbalance of inventory in certain categories, but weâ€™re able to make up that adjustment based on the â€œbreakageâ€ of math that occurs because all the accounts that immediately signed up essentially joined â€˜underâ€™ BlogRush â€” and so the network has a large percentage of surplus; which we are currently auto-distributing to all the members equally to help them get more traffic. We have plans to eventually give most of the bonus credits to our SMALL USERS since they need the traffic the most.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Whilst many people are looking on Blogrush as being a pyramid scam and the rich are feeding off the poor, I am increasing feeling that in many ways this will become more of a Robin Hood scenario.</p>
<p>Whilst the big blogs will generate more credits themselves, and lots of referrals, they will not gain the same CTR as smaller unknown blogs, because people are using Blogrush for discovery.<br />
With John highlighting that the surplus inventory is mainly going to go to smaller blogs in the future, this really is going to be robbing the rich to feed the poor, and a blog like <a href="http://www.shoemoney.com">Shoemoney</a> or <a href="http://www.problogger.net">Problogger</a> probably signed up directly.</p>
<p>Andy Beal being such a <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/09/blogrush-battling-bozos.html">smart marketer</a> probably signed Marketing Pilgrim up under his wife&#8217;s <a href="http://www.govisithawaii.com/">Hawaii Vacation Blog</a>. Despite the drama, if he removes the widget, his wife&#8217;s blog will receive less credits to allocate &#8211; what a dilemma to be in ;) &#8211; note those credits can&#8217;t be allocated currently.<br />
Andy hasn&#8217;t yet published any real stats (from 3rd party tracking), but I would love to see what traffic his wife&#8217;s blog has received in Google Analytics, and whether <b>that traffic</b> was more worthwhile than the traffic Marketing Pilgrim receives.<br />
I honestly wouldn&#8217;t click on one of Andy&#8217;s ads, because I am already a subscriber, but I did just see my WordPress Plugins site advertised on his site, and that doesn&#8217;t have a compelling title.</p>
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		<title>Important Tips On Using Feedburner Pro &#8211; Now Free</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>Feedburner have just annonced that 2 of their professional features are <a href="http://blogs.feedburner.com/feedburner/archives/2007/07/freeburner_for_everyone.php">now available free of charge</a>.</p>
<p>I have been signed up for Feedburner Pro for a while</p>
<h3>Feedburner Pro &#8211; I don&#8217;t use all the features</h3>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/882/important-tips-on-using-feedburner-pro-now-free.html" class="more-link">Read more on Important Tips On Using Feedburner Pro &#8211; Now Free&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>Feedburner have just annonced that 2 of their professional features are <a href="http://blogs.feedburner.com/feedburner/archives/2007/07/freeburner_for_everyone.php">now available free of charge</a>.</p>
<p>I have been signed up for Feedburner Pro for a while</p>
<h3>Feedburner Pro &#8211; I don&#8217;t use all the features</h3>
<p>Here are the settings I currently use for my Feedburner Pro Total stats</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/feedburner-pro.png' alt='Feedburner Pro' /></p>
<p>You will notice that the setting I don&#8217;t use is click stats, and this is for 3 very specific reasons.</p>
<p>With total stats, the links that appear in feeds are converted to tracking links. They have a special SEO option, that passes link juice, but unfortunately (or fortunately in some situations) not all search engines count a 301 redirect as a valid link to your domains, <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/06/how-to-avoid-being-banned-by-technorati.html">notably Technorati</a> which can be used to your advantage too.</p>
<p>This has an effect on links from the following</p>
<h3>Syndicated Content (with or without permission)</h3>
<p>Those permalinks to your article are a good way to detect where your content is being used. Some syndication sites are not very smart, and don&#8217;t pick up the permalink address within a Feedburner feed correctly, and would use the header link that is a Feedburner redirect.<br />
You wouldn&#8217;t be able to do a search for links to your domain, and the link isn&#8217;t detected by Technorati.</p>
<h3>Social Networds &#038; Bookmarking</h3>
<p>Some sites pick up your feeds and display a snippet. It takes additional programming to take into account Feedburner formatting.<br />
Many of these sites the links qualify as links in Technorati to your domain.</p>
<h3>Links from your Readers</h3>
<p><b>Someone is reading your feed&#8230; great!</b></p>
<p>They see one of your articles, and decide to link through to you&#8230; <b>even better!</b></p>
<p>They pick up your link from within the Feedburner feed showing in their feed reader&#8230; with the redirect &#8211; You will get search engine benefit, but no pingback / trackback, and it won&#8217;t show up in Technorati or help your authority.</p>
<h3>Linking Mistakes</h3>
<p>I went into a lot more details about these kinds of problems in my recent <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/06/linking-mistakes.html">linking mistakes article</a>.</p>
<h3>Mybrand</h3>
<p>Feedburner have had a &#8220;Mybrand&#8221; service for a while, though I haven&#8217;t actually attempted to use it. It allows you to consolidate your feeds on a subdomain of your website.</p>
<p>Now it is a totally free service I am going to give it a try sometime soon to see if it will help prevent reporting errors of subscribers.</p>
<p>Whilst in theory this would also help you retain ownership of your content, I don&#8217;t know of another feed tracking service with a similar service, and none so far really compare to Feedburner anyway, although for email subscriptions <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/04/payperpost-buys-zookoda-maybe-i-got-the-jump-on-techcrunch.html">Zookoda</a> provide more features, but the stats as far as I am aware are not reported back to Feedburner for a consolidated number of subscribers.</p>
<p>Feedburner have a near <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/77-reasons-why-google-buying-feedburner-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-hell.html">monopoly of rss feed stats</a>, and whilst I predicted that the pro features would become free soon, and we might also see more integration with other Google services such as Analytics, I am still not 100% it was a good idea.</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>If you do decide to switch on Total Stats, think carefully about whether complete click tracking is important to you, or whether you would prefer to have more links.</p>
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		<title>Reciprocal Favoriting Gives Benefits &amp; Adds Value</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 12:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>Blogging experts and social media marketing experts frequently write about how important it is to build up a network of friends on social bookmarking sites, and even encourage careful gaming of the system by email and instant messenger.</p>
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<p>Blogging experts and social media marketing experts frequently write about how important it is to build up a network of friends on social bookmarking sites, and even encourage careful gaming of the system by email and instant messenger.</p>
<p><b>That is gaming the system purely for their own benefit.</b></p>
<p>They might also frequently suggest you Digg their content, or add them to your bookmarks, or we could also add to that list &#8220;Add Me To Your Technorati Favorites&#8221;, or &#8220;Subscribe to my feed&#8221;.</p>
<h3>What Benefit Do You Get<br />From Taking That Action?</h3>
<ul>
<li><b>Digg</b> &#8211; You get very little benefit at all for taking that action, because most A-list bloggers really aren&#8217;t interested in reciprocating the favor &#8211; if you do it enough to get noticed, you might gain the occasional link which can help you gain readers</li>
<li><b>Other Bookmarking</b> &#8211; Again, don&#8217;t expect any reciprocity even if you write a good post</li>
<li><b>Technorati Favorites</b> &#8211; The A-Listers in general can&#8217;t see any value in the Technorati Favorite System, haven&#8217;t reviewed it in depth, and don&#8217;t use it extensively themselves, yet they frequently ask you to favorite them</li>
<li><b>Subscribing To Feeds</b> &#8211; <strike>Subscribe to their feed and you are guaranteed success</strike> &#8211; I am sure many bloggers only subscribe to the blogs of A-listers, because they are the only blogs they can trust to get the best information. The information might be good, but that isn&#8217;t going to bring you blogging success
</ul>
<p><b>I need to be very clear about a few things</b></p>
<ul>
<li>I <b>still read</b> A-list blogs (in my feed reader)</li>
<li>I <b>still link</b> to A-list blogs</li>
<li>I <b>still Digg</b> and bookmark posts from A-list blogs that I think are good</li>
</ul>
<h3>Reciprocity and Benefits in Marketing</h3>
<p>In internet marketing some of the most powerful tactics are:-</p>
<ol>
<li>Providing valuable information and benefits upfront, and at a later date converting your warm audience</li>
<li>Offering an incentive or bonus for taking an action such as joining a mailing list</li>
<li>Joint ventures such as free giveaways where lots of people send their traffic to a particular site, and in exchange have a chance to increase the size of their mailing lists and possibly earn some money form one-time offers</li>
<li>Polls and questionnaires to help you respond to the needs of your audience</li>
</ol>
<p>Unless you have something amazingly unique to offer in the way of information, or something potentially extremely profitable, you are not going to have access to people on the top rung of the ladder.</p>
<h3>Reciprocity and Benefits in Blogging</h3>
<p>Rand Fishkin at <a href="http://seomoz.com">SEOmoz</a> often refers to the &#8220;Linkerati&#8221;, which are those people who can provide links to your site, thus giving your content and overall site lots of Google Juice, to help you rise in the search engines, and also give you some traffic to maybe increase your audience.<br />
<small>Note:I am linking to Rand/SEOmoz simply because he coined the phrase, not because I ever expect Rand to link to me</small></p>
<p>As a blogger, I am going to suggest that you forget about A-list linkerati, and concentrate as much attention as you can on B-list linkerati and your own readers.</p>
<p>Target your content to your readers or the ones you potentially want to gain, because they are the ones who need to benefit from your content. Don&#8217;t alienate your core readership by watering down your content to please the A-list.</p>
<p>Over time, as your core readership expands, you can become noticed by the A-list linkerati in your own niche, but that connection is more likely to come via a 3rd party blogger or through a social media site.</p>
<h3>Addressing The Needs of Your Audience</h3>
<p>I have had a few people leave comments in the past that a lot of what I write is a little over their head currently, or that a particular post might be too long.</p>
<p>I made a concious decision 6 months ago not to write many &#8220;Top 10 tips&#8221; type articles on this blog. The core content isn&#8217;t intended to be a beginners guide or introduction to any particular topic, though I am always willing to answer questions in the comments, and lots of people take advantage of my contact form.</p>
<p>One of the things I have learned is that even your most fervent readers will miss posts, or skip them. They will also skip related posts links and avoid taking a look in categories or going tag browsing.</p>
<p>They will quite often suffer in silence. </p>
<p>One of the things I try hard to do is read or visit reader&#8217;s blogs. Sometimes it is hard to get too involved with the commenting, so it might end up being a drive by answer, but you can always follow up with further questions by email (and many do). I did however note in my post on <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/04/blogging-productivity.html">blogging productivity</a> that commenting on other people&#8217;s blogs is not productive, at least in many ways.<br />
There comes a point where you can spread yourself too thin, and you would be better off answering questions on your own blog and possibly linking through.</p>
<p>But to answer those questions being raised you have to know about the discussions in the first place, and that requires at least trying to read as much as you can in the time allocated.</p>
<p>I recently went into quite some detail about all the methods I am looking at to help me <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/04/blogging-productivity.html">read more of the blogs my readers write</a> &#8211; as my subscriber base increases, it is becoming more and more of a problem, I have significantly slowed down my blog posts over the last 2 months due to the time it takes responding to comment threads on other blogs.</p>
<p>Some of that experimentation is coming under fire from many notable bloggers.</p>
<p>A few bloggers have already had a chance to respond to the criticism so I am going to link to them here.</p>
<p>On DoshDosh there is a very in depth post about the <a href="http://www.doshdosh.com/blog-website-promotion/dealing-with-criticisms-of-technorati-favorites-exchange-experiment/">motivation in exchanging Technorati</a> Favorites. and covering the potential effect. Maki doesn&#8217;t fully agree with the OPML import method I introduced because it isn&#8217;t as personal. If you have 1000 blogs being rotated through your Technorati for the next year, there is a good chance you are going to see something of interest on all of them&#8230; well maybe, but there are some bugs.</p>
<p>Kevin suggests some A-Listers <a href="http://www.quartzmtn.com/weblog/ruffled_feathers_top_100">might have had their feathers ruffled</a>. I need to check out <a href="http://www.favorite.me.uk/">Favorite.me</a></p>
<p>Elaine goes back to her prom days, and also likes <a href="http://www.elainevigneault.com/2007/04/30/technorati-favorites-exchange-experiment-whores-prom-and-pigs-blood.html">pushing the boundaries a bit</a>. Suddenly a collection of 2000 bloggers can be used for other things.</p>
<p>You could probably pick up links to certain memes and find some really high quality blogs, and then convert the list into a high quality OPML file of blogs on a particular theme.</p>
<p>Gary Lee also related about his own <a href="http://www.mrgarylee.com/2007/04/30/responding-to-technorati-faves-criticism/">experience in running the Technorati Train</a>. Not quite so in-depth, but for me the most significant part was the conclusion:-</p>
<blockquote><p>I will continue to use this feature on Technorati and believe that it will continue to give me access and exposure to some sites that I probably will never have found for myself. For those who question the intergrity of this practice, I would just suggest that you first closely take a look at what you have been doing before overly criticizing the marketing practices of your peers.</p></blockquote>
<p>I also respect the decision of Kieron to only <a href="http://www.skillett.com/index.php/427/favourites-exchange-my-thoughts-and-bumpzee">selectively reciprocate</a>.</p>
<h3>Technorati Gains From People (ab)Using The Favorite Feature</h3>
<p>Engtech has saved me a lot of time, because one of the things I was going to write was desciption of all the <a href="http://engtech.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/technorati-favorites-exchange-fixing-technorati-favorites/">geeky things you can do with Technorati Favorites</a>. He has also written about a number of bugs or things that need fixing and I am going to add to that list.</p>
<ul>
<li>How hard it is to clean your favorites list &#8211; lots and lots of page reloading if you want to delete comments feeds, twitter, search results etc.</li>
<li>My Favorites should have equal authority &#8211; this might seem obvious, but if you have selcted certain blogs as your favorites, you would expect them all to show up someime or other on your front page. This doesn&#8217;t happen. The blogs with the least authority are skipped, and you can end up with 4 copies of the same blog post plus comments on your front page, and all the content from other blogs never appearing.<br />
The same happens in the RSS feeds, and my sidebar syndication unfairly doesn&#8217;t include as many blogs as it should.</li>
<li>Importing OPML &#8211; I want to pre-assign tags when I import, thus I could for instance grab a list of 400+ SEO blogs, and import it under an SEO tag immediately. Duplicate entries would just get a new tag</li>
<li>The Searching of Favorites <b>isn&#8217;t giving me any results</b></li>
</ul>
<p>Based upon the bugs Engtech has found, and my own experience, it seems to me these features were never really put through their paces before, and certainly not by the people criticising the favorite exchanges (who still ask their readers to favorite without giving a benefit for doing it)</p>
<p>As far as I have seen, no mainstream tech blog has ever actually done an extensive review including the various ways Technorati Favorites can be used.</p>
<h3>If They Saw a Value In Reciprocation <br />Or Using Technorati Favorites<br />The Detractors Would Be Reciprocating Like Mad</h3>
<p>Lets take Twitter as an example:-</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/twitter-reciprocal-favorites.png' alt='Twitterholic' /></p>
<p>This is a screenshot from Twitterholic, where I have highlighted all those accounts that are practicing reciprocation to a large extent, or have invited a massive amount of people as friends in the hope of them being reciprocated.</p>
<p>I grabbed the top 21, just so I could mention Stephen Colbert, not that he is actually doing any reciprocation.</p>
<p>Among the reciprocators are Robert Scoble, John Edwards, Jason Calacanis (though not 100%), Chris Pirillo, and the extremely smart social networking specialist Webtickle added maybe 5000 friends the day he setup a Twitter account.</p>
<p>These are people who want to communicate with others in the blogosphere or Twittersphere and Twitter encourage reciprocation because every time someone adds you as a friend you get an email.</p>
<p>Both Bumpzee and Blogcatalog also send emails notifying about new friends, and I expect both services will add lots of features to take advantage of this</p>
<p>Hang on a minute&#8230; MyBlogLog used to also send emails for everyone that friended you automatically, and people complained about that being abused, and I was among them.</p>
<h3>What is the difference?</h3>
<p>With Twitter it is like an invitation to enter 2 way communication</p>
<p>With Technorati, no emails are sent, and if you friend lots of people maybe using the OPML import you can use that to make your searching more relevant, and for creating useful shared feeds.</p>
<p>With Bumpzee and Blogcatalog I have generally reciprocated a fair amount, because everyone using the service so far has been quality with no spam &#8211; both services have blogs being vetted for inclusion, I am not sure how members are vetted these days. Most of the people I recognise as my readers, so of course I am going to reciprocate.</p>
<p>With MyBlogLog, currently there still is little use for having friends other than if you want to allow only certain people access to your contact information on various networks, and to segregate messages between friends and strangers. Hopefully they will start accelerating their development as I saw they are hiring 2 new developers.</p>
<h3>Technorati Reciprocal Favoriting</h3>
<p>I have always offered benefits for people to add me to their favorites. I reciprocate, because I truely want to read what my readers are writing, and whilst I started off just using the Technorati supplied widgets, I now have a Technorati Favorites RSS feed in my sidebar.</p>
<p>Unlike MyBlogLog Communities, I get to read my Technorati Favorites in a single stream of RSS or on the Technorati site using pagination and I have always had my Technorati Favorites in my Google Reader Account as well.<br />
I can&#8217;t guarantee to read every post, but I definately skim them when I have time.</p>
<p>The other thing it guarantees is when I am researching new posts, I get to read what my readers have said about a particular subject, and respond to them, and not the A-Listers.</p>
<p>I do however reject the notion that services that provide an OPML import feature don&#8217;t want people to actually use it to import feeds.</p>
<h3>Other Ways to Add Incentives</h3>
<p>Andy Beal is offering a <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/a-free-nintendo-wii-for-one-lucky-marketing-pilgrim-fan.html">Wii for favorites</a>, similar to his earlier MyBlogLog efforts. </p>
<p>Jordan seems to have the <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-technorati-100-not-so-hot.html">hots for data</a>, so I am also going to offer some.</p>
<p>During the last month I have had 562 visitors from Technorati</p>
<p>80 of those visits came from the Technorati home page (as in from people who had favorited me)<br />
26 visitors from the Technorati Top100 Favorites Page<br />
51 Visitors for my andybeard.eu page on Technorati</p>
<p>In addition I show my favorites in my sidebar, which shows up as links in Technorati, just link blogroll links &#8211; so my favorites all get a nice link from me without losing too much Google Juice to a huge long blogroll.<br />
That link however also gets seen in the WordPress console, so brings in a few visitors. I would attribute at least 50 uniques for that.</p>
<p>Also important, I have probably gained at least 50 subscribers to my RSS or email syndication that I can attribute and quite a few links, though I am also giving out a lot of links.</p>
<p>For an established blog, these numbers would not be looked on as significant.</p>
<p>I have also spent much more time writing about Technorati Favorites than taking part in the exchanges, but as one of my core topics for this blog is blog optimization and blog search, plus various blog social networks, that time invested was worthwhile.</p>
<h3>Some Ideas for Technorati, and My Readers</h3>
<p>If Technorati provide a way to tag OPML when you import, then users of the service could create packages of their favorite blogs around a certain subject. Other feed reader services have default subscription packages, why not allow Technorati users to create their own with the ability to import them under their own designated tag.</p>
<p>Web Designers<br />
SEO<br />
SEM<br />
Knitting</p>
<p>Proactive Technorati users could then share these OPML distributions</p>
<h3>Feed Link Chain?</h3>
<p>Yep, another chain starting up, <a href="http://www.whoismadhur.com/2007/05/01/the-feed-link-train/">this time with RSS Feeds</a> &#8211; seems to be a long list and I couldn&#8217;t find any mention on Google Blog Search, so maybe he is starting it.</p>
<p>The problem is with full feeds in your feed reader, there are only a certain number you can read. Sure again it is interesting OPML but there is no way to gauge reciprocation, and the list I have seen gives absolutely no details about the blogs to give an incentive to subscribe to a particular one.<br />
Also why all the manual clicking to add people to a feed reader. Why not just distribute an OPML file if you really want to do it.</p>
<p>It has been mentioned that this will help boost monetization potential, but advertisers aren&#8217;t stupid, and nor are TLA / ReviewMe / Sponsored Reviews / TLB / PPP etc</p>
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		<title>Performancing Metrics vs Clicky vs MyBlogLog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/575/performancing-metrics-clicky-mybloglog.html" class="more-link">Read more on Performancing Metrics vs Clicky vs MyBlogLog&#8230;</a></p>
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<p><a class="alignright" href='http://getclicky.com/4579' rel='attachment wp-att-576' title='Clicky'><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/clicky.png' alt='Clicky' /></a>Having previously discussed <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/03/performancing-metrics-could-steal-your-undies.html">Performancing Metrics</a> as being a little bit of a &#8220;Wolf in Sheep&#8217;s Clothing&#8221;, I decided to sign up directly with <a href="http://getclicky.com/4579">Clicky</a>. I also removed any Performancing affiliate links from the article.</p>
<p>As far as I am currently aware, Clicky, developed by Roxr Software Ltd are not a direct competitor, and thus in my mind them having access to my data is potentially less risk.</p>
<h3>Accuracy of Tracking Data</h3>
<p>The accuracy of your tracking data is important, thus I am doing a test</p>
<p><strong>Clicky</strong><br />
<strong>Performancing Metrics</strong><br />
<strong>Mybloglog</strong></p>
<p>Just to give Performancing Metrics a slight advantage, I am going to include their tracking data first in my page.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/clicky-vs-performancing-vs-mybloglog.png' alt='Performancing vs Clicky vs MyBlogLog' /></p>
<p>Clicky does seem to have an edge currently on interface over MyBlogLog, but remember that as I previously wrote, MyBlogLog might well have <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/03/mybloglog-api-how-far-forward-are-you-thinking.html">an API available soon</a> and that historical data is highly valuable if you have been using them for a while.</p>
<p>Also what happens if Clicky gets acquired? I feel more confident in a change over and longevity of the service if it is not being hosted on 3rd party servers.<br />
If Performancing Metrics was just an affiliate white label, and they didn&#8217;t have anything to do with my data, I would be much happier to recommend them, but at this stage, <a href="http://getclicky.com/4579">Clicky direct</a> gets my vote.</p>
<h3>Update</h3>
<p>Performancing Metrics and Clicky don&#8217;t seem to want to co-exist, thus one of them has to go at least until they improve their scripts so that they truly are different. Maybe there is a problem with shared declaration.</p>
<p><strike>Performancing Metrics</strike></p>
<p>Nothing highly personal, I would just prefer Clicky to have my data rather than Performancing.</p>
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		<title>Performancing Metrics Could Steal Your Undies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p><strong>Performancing metrics has risen like a phoenix from the ashes, but is it a devil in disguise that it not just looking to steal the shirt off your back, but your undies as well?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Performancing metrics has risen like a phoenix from the ashes, but is it a devil in disguise that it not just looking to steal the shirt off your back, but your undies as well?</strong></p>
<p><strong style="color:red;">UPDATE:- based on the information I currently have, I would much prefer to use and recommend the use of the <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/03/performancing-metrics-clicky-mybloglog.html">Clicky service</a> directly, rather than a white label version hosted by Performancing.</strong></p>
<p>As is a tradition on this blog, I don&#8217;t have any favoritism, and I don&#8217;t hold any punches. It is what my readers expect, especially when <strike>I am also including affiliate links in a review.</strike></p>
<h3>Better The Devil You Know</h3>
<p>There is a saying &#8220;Better the devil you know, than the devil you don&#8217;t&#8221;</p>
<p>Another equally good expression is &#8220;<strong>A wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing</strong>&#8221;</p>
<h3>Is Performancing Metrics A Wolf In Sheep&#8217;s Clothing?</h3>
<p>Possibly&#8230;</p>
<h3>Splashpress Media</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.splashpress.com/">Splashpress media</a> is the owner of Performancing.com , along with many notable blogs such as the Blog Herald.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had any direct dealings with the guys at Splashpress Media, though I have frequented their blogs, linked to them, they link to me etc.<br />
But&#8230;</p>
<h3>Splashpress Media Are Competitors</h3>
<p>If you are in a profitable niche, maybe they are not in your niche now, but they may be in the future.</p>
<p>Their terms and conditions suggest that they will not provide your data to third parties, but that doesn&#8217;t prevent them aggregating data for their own use.</p>
<h3>Performancing Tracks Everything</h3>
<p>The Performancing Metrics service is tracking click data, and that could well include monetization links to affiliate programs, advertising and PPC.<br />
Performancing also tracks page views</p>
<p>This data even if just looked on in an aggregated manner could be used to identify niche markets that are profitable or experiencing high growth.</p>
<h3>Bad Taste</h3>
<p>I was debating whether to mention this, but decided it would be best to have everything out in the open from the off.</p>
<p>Recently there was a blogosphere scandal regarding MyBlogLog tracking Adsense clicks. I don&#8217;t know how the &#8220;learned&#8221; A-list &#8220;reputable&#8221; bloggers could have missed it as it was reported on a number of prominent blogs previously, and it was obvious the data was being tracked.</p>
<p>Performancing.com is edited by David Krug<br />
901AM is owned by David Krug</p>
<p>Just a few weeks ago Duncan Riley was writing for 901AM (he is just a paid seat there), and reporting on the &#8220;<a href="http://www.901am.com/2007/using-mybloglog-could-get-you-banned-from-adsense.html">MyBlogLog Adsense scandal</a>&#8220;, which didn&#8217;t really exist.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take much effort to research whether you have your head stuck in the sand, or whether there is something real to any story. As an example Darren Rouse first reported about the <a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/09/12/mybloglog-ads-adsense-tracking/">Adsense feature back in September 2006</a>, and <a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/data-gather-from-blog-widgets/">Michael Gray had discussed it as well</a>.</p>
<p>I actually noted at the time Duncan&#8217;s piece was written that in the footer of David Krug&#8217;s 901AM blog was a reference to Performancing Metrics, pre-prepared to become a hyperlink to a sister site in the future.<br />
<a href='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/901a.png' title='901AM footer'><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/901a.thumbnail.png' alt='901AM footer' /></a></p>
<p>I actually still have a screenshot of the <a href='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/901.png' title='901am'>full story</a>.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how many people who attacked MyBlogLog&#8217;s Adsense tracking write balanced reviews of Performancing Metrics.</p>
<p>You see there were 2 key points</p>
<ul>
<li>Whether people knew about the tracking</li>
<li>Would tracking Adsense really get you banned</li>
</ul>
<p>As mentioned above, Darren Rouse and a number of others had reported it, and as I previously wrote, it was fairly obvious that <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/02/wolfpack-of-lies-hack-baiting-web-20-startups-for-diggs.html">MyBlogLog was tracking Adsense</a>.</p>
<p>Can tracking Adsense get you banned? Actually it may be the opposite, the only way to defend yourself if you are accused of click-fraud, and the only way to determine whether Adsese are tracking your clicks correctly.</p>
<p><a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/008748.html">Jeremy Zawodny</a> was previously asking people whether their MyBlogLog Adsense tracking results compared well with those clicks allocated by Google. <a href="http://blog.domramsey.com/tech/mybloglog-and-adsense/">Don certainly saw a difference</a>, and discussed the differences in stats with the Adsense team. That wsn&#8217;t the first occurrence.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that Performancing Metrics in its previous incarnation always tracked Adsense stats. It was a known feature, as is the case with many stats packages.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned the story was ill-conceived hackbait, and as 901AM was connected with a soon to launch competitor, they definately shouldn&#8217;t have run the story, even if it was topical and written by a 3rd party (Duncan has no direct interest in Performancing Metrics)</p>
<h3>Performancing Metrics Has Great Features</h3>
<p>So that is the negativity out of the way, lets look at Performancing Metrics and what it has to offer.</p>
<ul>
It is free for most bloggers and cheap for the rest of us<br />
The statistics seem to be accurate<br />
The statistics are &#8220;almost live&#8221; due to caching, but much faster than things like Google Analytics<br />
The interface is fast &#8211; Google Analytics honestly after more than a year still runds exceptionally slowly
</ul>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the old Performancing Metrics that were highly rates, but honestly I never really liked the interface. The new Performancing Metrics is <strong>Slick</strong>.</p>
<h3>Would I use Performancing Metrics?</h3>
<p>Damn tough question&#8230; probably on a few sites.</p>
<p>Whilst I might universally use Google Analytics on every site I own, I doubt I would use Performancing Metrics on my niche blogs that are not public knowledge.</p>
<p>I might use them on a few public sites, including this one although I would much prefer a situation that a purely monetization company is running a statistics service, and not a potential competitor.</p>
<p>Once I have some more stats to compare over the next week, I will write a full review.</p>
<h3>But Performancing Metrics isn&#8217;t Performancing Metrics</h3>
<p>It is just a rebranded version of Clicky as <a href="http://www.betaflow.com/2007/03/performancing-metrics-announces-clicky/">is being reported</a>.</p>
<p>Do Performancing still get access to the data, and why no mention of this in the terms of service?</p>
<p>Here is the answer:-</p>
<blockquote><p>It is not just a ploy to earn affiliate commissions &#8211; he has â€œofficiallyâ€ licensed our product and is hosting it on the Performancing servers. He believes in our product, as do we, otherwise we wouldnâ€™t be in this position. I donâ€™t know what else to say, but I think you are being overly negative for no good reason.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Compete Toolbar Bug With Google Reader &#8211; Compete vs Alexa vs Quantcast Stats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>I have had long term problems with the Compete Toolbar as I pointed out some time ago on my <a href="http://blog.oflaherty.dk/2006/11/01/compete-toolbar-firefox-bust-google-reader/#comments">friend Paul&#8217;s blog,</a> I think I actually made that comment on my first visit to his blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/455/compete-toolbar-bug-with-google-reader-compete-vs-alexa-stats.html" class="more-link">Read more on Compete Toolbar Bug With Google Reader &#8211; Compete vs Alexa vs Quantcast Stats&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>I have had long term problems with the Compete Toolbar as I pointed out some time ago on my <a href="http://blog.oflaherty.dk/2006/11/01/compete-toolbar-firefox-bust-google-reader/#comments">friend Paul&#8217;s blog,</a> I think I actually made that comment on my first visit to his blog.</p>
<p>The only time I actually test the Compete Toolbar is when I get an upgrade for it. Firefox detects a new upgrade, downloads it, and switches the toolbar on automatically from its default state on my computer &#8211; off.</p>
<p>The reason I keep it switched off is because with the Compete Toolbar switched on, Google Reader doesn&#8217;t work. It has been a good 3 months since Paul noted a problem. I just downloaded a new version, and again it doesn&#8217;t work with Google Reader on my system.</p>
<h3>Compete Statistics</h3>
<p>I have been disappointed with Compete Statistics for some time, especially within various niches that are technology related.</p>
<p>I decided to do a little roundup of blogs in the SEO SEM &#038; Make Money Niche &#8211; no disrespect to anyone I missed out, page load time is going to suck anyway with all these images. Some sites I checked out and they fell into line with others which have similar Alexa traffic, so I just kept one example.</p>
<h4><a href="http://Problogger.net">Problogger.net</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 2309</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-problogger.png' alt='Quantcast Problogger' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-problogger.png' alt='problogger' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://Shoemoney.com">Shoemoney.com</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 1281</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-shoemoney.png' alt='Quantcast Shoemoney' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-shoemoney.png' alt='Shoemoney' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://wolf-howl.com">Graywolf</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 4993</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-graywolf.png' alt='Quantcast Graywolf' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-wolfhowl.png' alt='Wolf-howl' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://pronetadvertising.com">Pronet Advertising</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 10015</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-pronetadvertising.png' alt='Quantcast Pronet Advertising' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-pronetadvertising.png' alt='Pronet Advertising' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://searchenginejournal.com">Search Engine Journal</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 4264</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-searchenginejournal.png' alt='Quantcast SearchEngineJournal' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-sej.png' alt='Search Engine Journal' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://battellemedia.com/">John Battelle&#8217;s Search Blog</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 7684</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-battelle.png' alt='Quantcast Batelle' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-battelle.png' alt='Battelle' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/">Search Engine Watch</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 957</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-searchenginewatch.png' alt='Quantcast SearchEngineWatch' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-searchenginewatch.png' alt='Search Engine Watch' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://www.toprankblog.com/">TopRank Blog</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 7610</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-toprankblog.png' alt='Quantcast TopRankBlog' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-toprankblog.png' alt='TopRankBlog' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://andybeard.eu/">Andy Beard</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 32K going on 20k</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-andybeard.png' alt='Quantcast AndyBeard' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-andybeard.png' alt='AndyBeard' /></p>
<h3>Statistics Analysis</h3>
<p>The Alexa stats just don&#8217;t tie up with the Compete stats, even in a similar niche. Why do SEJ and SEW do so much better than Problogger and Shoemoney on Compete scores when both have very high (and legitimate) Alexa scores?<br />
John Battelle stats are fascinating &#8211; he has a huge number of subscribers based on his recent stats from a few days ago after <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/003383.php">Google Reader was included</a> but his Alexa score and number of comments doesn&#8217;t match. John seems to have a different kind of reader.</p>
<p>Do corporate intranets and default feeds on start pages (before you sign up) get somehow added to subscriber data? </p>
<p>I have always looked on the number of comments as being a good indication for blogs as to whether Alexa data is consistant, and generally within this niche it is, with the exception of John Battelles stats. I can think of reasons for that, as he is a &#8220;trusted&#8221; news source.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that Compete is a relatively new service, younger than all of the sites listed. I didn&#8217;t include SearchEngineLand specifically because it is a new site and thus might not have been a fair comparison.</p>
<p>As for my own data&#8230; wow, I am in the top 1 million now for Compete. </p>
<p>I feel much more inclined to use Alexa data as an indicator over Compete, not only because I can actually use it without breaking Google Reader, but also because the statistics for Alexa at least seem to have some level of consistency.</p>
<p>Time to close Firefox to switch Compete off again until the next update.</p>
<p><strong>Update: I have now added Quantcast figures</strong></p>
<h3>Quantcast</h3>
<p>Quantcast is a strange entity, in that the figures for traffic can be highly accurate. I know the figures they have for <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/andybeard.eu">my site are 100% accurate</a>. The reason they have exact data for my site is because I have been running their tracking code on my site for the last month and have my site registered with them.</p>
<p>For sites that aren&#8217;t registered and running the tracking code, the data is fairly weak &#8211; I am not sure where they get the data from, but it seems to be fairly dubious.</p>
<p>Its another piece of code you end up placing in the footer of your site, and I am sure the tin-foil  hat brigade are not too happy about sharing everything about their sites, but it seems Quantcast get the data even if you don&#8217;t use their tracking code. It is probably best to register and then decide which data to display.<br />
Lots of data isn&#8217;t always displayed for lower ranked sites &#8211; that certainly seems to be the case with this site.</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/faq.jsp">Quantcast FAQ</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
 How can I fix my site profile?</p>
<p>There is a sure-fire way to improve the accuracy of these numbers: by placing a measurement pixel on your site. Add a pixel and let our technology do the rest. Within just a few days you&#8217;ll see more refined, accurate and representative numbers for your site&#8217;s audience.
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<p>How accurate their ratings are for sites that experience a growth in traffic are unknown, and the drops in reported traffic on some sites are strange. Where you host seems to make a difference with how much data they have if you don&#8217;t have the code installed.</p>
<p>Update2: <a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/index.php/2007/02/19/web-revenue-blog-rankings">Conversion Rater has been doing a similar analysis</a> trying to create a rankings table based on this data. Unfortunately it isn&#8217;t taking into account why some of the metrics data might be totally inaccurate, such as sites not registered with Quantcast.<br />
Clarification: Pat does mention screwy data for sites not including Quantcast code, but the way he says it suggests that this is affecting those on his list that have a 15,000,000 rating. Of the 16 sites on the list, only 4 might have registered with Quantcast. It is just not worth using the figure. Comepete seems to be all over the place as well, with 6 sites not having any data at all.</p>
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		<title>Alexa Finally Provide Some Useful Data</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>Ok that is a bit tongue in cheek &#8211; Alexa data has always had some use for sites that are not gamed, and within similar niches, and it is always nice to see.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/435/alexa-finally-provide-some-useful-data.html" class="more-link">Read more on Alexa Finally Provide Some Useful Data&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>Ok that is a bit tongue in cheek &#8211; Alexa data has always had some use for sites that are not gamed, and within similar niches, and it is always nice to see.</p>
<p>To save me writing more about it, you can head over to Meg&#8217;s Blogpond <a href="http://blogpond.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/alexacom-makes-great-changes/">report on new Alexa data</a>.</p>
<p>There is a good reason I am sending you to Meg&#8217;s blog &#8211; she lives in Australia, and runs sites for an Aussie audience &#8211; the country data shows one of her sites is rated 176 in Australia &#8211; you would never tell that looking at the normal Alexa rating of around 25k</p>
<p>If you look at my own Alexa data, you will notice I am not gaming my results too much though I am using search status while editing, saving etc which has a small effect. 5% Polish traffic is likely at least 50% me, though I do have a few Polish readers.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>I had been having some ISP problems connecting to Feedburner for a couple of days so I hadn&#8217;t logged into my Feedburner account.</p>
<p>I am happy to see that I have crossed the 200 subscriber count. It isn&#8217;t a number to create a big fanfare about, but would like to thank those who have subscribed.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/308/subscriptions-feedburner-changes.html" class="more-link">Read more on Subscriptions &#124; Feedburner Changes&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>I had been having some ISP problems connecting to Feedburner for a couple of days so I hadn&#8217;t logged into my Feedburner account.</p>
<p>I am happy to see that I have crossed the 200 subscriber count. It isn&#8217;t a number to create a big fanfare about, but would like to thank those who have subscribed.</p>
<p>Hopefully I can reward your subscription by maintaining a different thought provoking perspective to other blogs you subscribe to.</p>
<p>I was also interested to note that Feedburner&#8217;s new statistics offering now features on your front page when you log in. I will probably add the Feedburner code to this blog sometime today to compare statistics for my planned reviews on stats packages.</p>
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