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		<title>BlogRovr is Elitist</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>I heard about <a href="http://www.blogrovr.com">BlogRovr</a> over on <a href="http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/03/30/techmeme-on-steroids/">WTC</a> and thought I would give it a try.</p>
<p>It seemed like a good idea, I took some screenshots while setting it up and was going to write a lengthy post about it today.<br />
I was honestly quite excited, as I find various kinds of meme trackers extremely useful.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/602/blogrovr-is-elitist.html" class="more-link">Read more on BlogRovr is Elitist&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>I heard about <a href="http://www.blogrovr.com">BlogRovr</a> over on <a href="http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/03/30/techmeme-on-steroids/">WTC</a> and thought I would give it a try.</p>
<p>It seemed like a good idea, I took some screenshots while setting it up and was going to write a lengthy post about it today.<br />
I was honestly quite excited, as I find various kinds of meme trackers extremely useful.</p>
<p>WTC actually highlighted Techmeme in their title &#8211; I actually much prefer to use custom Megite memes <a href="http://www.megite.com/toprankblog">such as this one on SEO</a> and I get it updated all the time on a <a href="http://toolbar-buttons.com">Google Toolbar button</a>.</p>
<p>BlogRovr might be a good idea, but is limited to only 100 sites.</p>
<h3>Add a Zero</h3>
<p>The idea of meme trackers is to be able to handle more information than you could otherwise cope with in a Feed Reader. A limit of 100 is absolutely useless for any serious use.</p>
<p>Increase that number to 1000 and I might be interested in taking a deeper look at it and maybe giving a recommendation.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t handle the data, invest in bigger servers, or limit your beta to fewer people.</p>
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		<title>Compete Toolbar Bug With Google Reader &#8211; Compete vs Alexa vs Quantcast Stats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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<p>I have had long term problems with the Compete Toolbar as I pointed out some time ago on my <a href="http://blog.oflaherty.dk/2006/11/01/compete-toolbar-firefox-bust-google-reader/#comments">friend Paul&#8217;s blog,</a> I think I actually made that comment on my first visit to his blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://andybeard.eu/455/compete-toolbar-bug-with-google-reader-compete-vs-alexa-stats.html" class="more-link">Read more on Compete Toolbar Bug With Google Reader &#8211; Compete vs Alexa vs Quantcast Stats&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>I have had long term problems with the Compete Toolbar as I pointed out some time ago on my <a href="http://blog.oflaherty.dk/2006/11/01/compete-toolbar-firefox-bust-google-reader/#comments">friend Paul&#8217;s blog,</a> I think I actually made that comment on my first visit to his blog.</p>
<p>The only time I actually test the Compete Toolbar is when I get an upgrade for it. Firefox detects a new upgrade, downloads it, and switches the toolbar on automatically from its default state on my computer &#8211; off.</p>
<p>The reason I keep it switched off is because with the Compete Toolbar switched on, Google Reader doesn&#8217;t work. It has been a good 3 months since Paul noted a problem. I just downloaded a new version, and again it doesn&#8217;t work with Google Reader on my system.</p>
<h3>Compete Statistics</h3>
<p>I have been disappointed with Compete Statistics for some time, especially within various niches that are technology related.</p>
<p>I decided to do a little roundup of blogs in the SEO SEM &#038; Make Money Niche &#8211; no disrespect to anyone I missed out, page load time is going to suck anyway with all these images. Some sites I checked out and they fell into line with others which have similar Alexa traffic, so I just kept one example.</p>
<h4><a href="http://Problogger.net">Problogger.net</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 2309</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-problogger.png' alt='Quantcast Problogger' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-problogger.png' alt='problogger' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://Shoemoney.com">Shoemoney.com</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 1281</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-shoemoney.png' alt='Quantcast Shoemoney' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-shoemoney.png' alt='Shoemoney' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://wolf-howl.com">Graywolf</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 4993</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-graywolf.png' alt='Quantcast Graywolf' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-wolfhowl.png' alt='Wolf-howl' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://pronetadvertising.com">Pronet Advertising</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 10015</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-pronetadvertising.png' alt='Quantcast Pronet Advertising' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-pronetadvertising.png' alt='Pronet Advertising' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://searchenginejournal.com">Search Engine Journal</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 4264</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-searchenginejournal.png' alt='Quantcast SearchEngineJournal' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-sej.png' alt='Search Engine Journal' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://battellemedia.com/">John Battelle&#8217;s Search Blog</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 7684</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-battelle.png' alt='Quantcast Batelle' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-battelle.png' alt='Battelle' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/">Search Engine Watch</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 957</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-searchenginewatch.png' alt='Quantcast SearchEngineWatch' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-searchenginewatch.png' alt='Search Engine Watch' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://www.toprankblog.com/">TopRank Blog</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 7610</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-toprankblog.png' alt='Quantcast TopRankBlog' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-toprankblog.png' alt='TopRankBlog' /></p>
<h4><a href="http://andybeard.eu/">Andy Beard</a></h4>
<p><strong>Current Alexa Rating:- 32K going on 20k</strong></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/quant-andybeard.png' alt='Quantcast AndyBeard' /></p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/compete-andybeard.png' alt='AndyBeard' /></p>
<h3>Statistics Analysis</h3>
<p>The Alexa stats just don&#8217;t tie up with the Compete stats, even in a similar niche. Why do SEJ and SEW do so much better than Problogger and Shoemoney on Compete scores when both have very high (and legitimate) Alexa scores?<br />
John Battelle stats are fascinating &#8211; he has a huge number of subscribers based on his recent stats from a few days ago after <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/003383.php">Google Reader was included</a> but his Alexa score and number of comments doesn&#8217;t match. John seems to have a different kind of reader.</p>
<p>Do corporate intranets and default feeds on start pages (before you sign up) get somehow added to subscriber data? </p>
<p>I have always looked on the number of comments as being a good indication for blogs as to whether Alexa data is consistant, and generally within this niche it is, with the exception of John Battelles stats. I can think of reasons for that, as he is a &#8220;trusted&#8221; news source.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that Compete is a relatively new service, younger than all of the sites listed. I didn&#8217;t include SearchEngineLand specifically because it is a new site and thus might not have been a fair comparison.</p>
<p>As for my own data&#8230; wow, I am in the top 1 million now for Compete. </p>
<p>I feel much more inclined to use Alexa data as an indicator over Compete, not only because I can actually use it without breaking Google Reader, but also because the statistics for Alexa at least seem to have some level of consistency.</p>
<p>Time to close Firefox to switch Compete off again until the next update.</p>
<p><strong>Update: I have now added Quantcast figures</strong></p>
<h3>Quantcast</h3>
<p>Quantcast is a strange entity, in that the figures for traffic can be highly accurate. I know the figures they have for <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/andybeard.eu">my site are 100% accurate</a>. The reason they have exact data for my site is because I have been running their tracking code on my site for the last month and have my site registered with them.</p>
<p>For sites that aren&#8217;t registered and running the tracking code, the data is fairly weak &#8211; I am not sure where they get the data from, but it seems to be fairly dubious.</p>
<p>Its another piece of code you end up placing in the footer of your site, and I am sure the tin-foil  hat brigade are not too happy about sharing everything about their sites, but it seems Quantcast get the data even if you don&#8217;t use their tracking code. It is probably best to register and then decide which data to display.<br />
Lots of data isn&#8217;t always displayed for lower ranked sites &#8211; that certainly seems to be the case with this site.</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/faq.jsp">Quantcast FAQ</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
 How can I fix my site profile?</p>
<p>There is a sure-fire way to improve the accuracy of these numbers: by placing a measurement pixel on your site. Add a pixel and let our technology do the rest. Within just a few days you&#8217;ll see more refined, accurate and representative numbers for your site&#8217;s audience.
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<p>How accurate their ratings are for sites that experience a growth in traffic are unknown, and the drops in reported traffic on some sites are strange. Where you host seems to make a difference with how much data they have if you don&#8217;t have the code installed.</p>
<p>Update2: <a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/index.php/2007/02/19/web-revenue-blog-rankings">Conversion Rater has been doing a similar analysis</a> trying to create a rankings table based on this data. Unfortunately it isn&#8217;t taking into account why some of the metrics data might be totally inaccurate, such as sites not registered with Quantcast.<br />
Clarification: Pat does mention screwy data for sites not including Quantcast code, but the way he says it suggests that this is affecting those on his list that have a 15,000,000 rating. Of the 16 sites on the list, only 4 might have registered with Quantcast. It is just not worth using the figure. Comepete seems to be all over the place as well, with 6 sites not having any data at all.</p>
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