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		<title>Google Double or Indented Listings</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whilst I gain tons of Google indented listings for money terms, and I can achieve them quite often in minutes, rather than days, they are almost always achieved using a few simple steps.

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	<li>Get one page indexed and ranking</li>
	<li>Write a second post linking to the first (which will also then trackback to the second page)</li>
	<li>Use the same primary keyword in both posts</li>
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The second method I use, for topics that get frequent mentions, are tags.

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	<li>My post with the highest number of links on a topic will most likely rank well</li>
	<li>My tag page which leads to further posts on the topic will form the secondary listing</li>
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<p>Whilst I gain tons of Google indented listings for money terms, and I can achieve them quite often in minutes, rather than days, they are almost always achieved using a few simple steps.</p>
<ul>
<li>Get one page indexed and ranking</li>
<li>Write a second post linking to the first (which will also then trackback to the second page)</li>
<li>Use the same primary keyword in both posts</li>
</ul>
<p>The second method I use, for topics that get frequent mentions, are tags.</p>
<ul>
<li>My post with the highest number of links on a topic will most likely rank well</li>
<li>My tag page which leads to further posts on the topic will form the secondary listing</li>
</ul>
<h3>Examples Of Title Based Google Indented Listing</h3>
<p>I have at least partially recovered my search ranking since yesterday for <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2008/05/players-with-money-devastating-the-serps.html">Players With Money</a>, and achieved a double listing, though how effective depends on which data center you look at, and geographic location.<br />
Players With Money is being promoted to a number of very large email lists currently, and this is bringing me search traffic &#8211; as I wrote yesterday, it is a great service, and worth checking out.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/indented-listing-players-with-money.png' alt='Players With Money Indented Listing' /></p>
<p>I also have a double indented listing for Stompernet Site Seer &#8211; but I am not ranking anywhere near as well for <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2008/05/stompernet-site-seer.html">Stomper Site Seer</a> &#8211; I have tweaked the page, and also added a tag page for that specific search term.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/indented-listings-stompernet-site-seer.png' alt='Stompernet Site Seer - Double Indented Listing' /></p>
<p>A search just on Site Seer does however bring the results I hoped for.</p>
<p><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/indented-listings.png' alt='Indented Listings' /></p>
<p>Another money terms I rank comfortably for is <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/12/social-power-linking.html">Social Power Linking</a> &#8211; this new link will probably help the page which mentions the new price rank in the top spot and add a little more longevity. Jack has to settle for 3rd and 4th place for his own product, but I am sure he doesn&#8217;t mind.</p>
<p><a href='http://andybeard.eu/2008/05/google-double-indented-listing.html/social-power-linking/' rel='attachment wp-att-1382' title='Social Power Linking'><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/indented-listings-social-power-linking.png' alt='Social Power Linking' /></a></p>
<h3>Example Of Tag Based Indented Listings</h3>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to get too graphic heavy on this page, so I will just make a quick list of a few examples</p>
<ul>
<li>Blogcatalog</li>
<li>Dofollow</li>
<li>SocialSpark</li>
</ul>
<p>I really should get one for <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/09/blogrush-7-critical-mistakes.html">Blogrush</a> and knock Tamar down a couple of spots. Since I wrote about the <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2008/04/over-11-ctr-from-blogrush-is-possible.html">free traffic from Blogrush</a> that Alex received, I have actually had one day when Blogrush combined with Traffic Jam was my highest referrer.<br />
It is not server breaking traffic, but it is targeted, and 100+ targeted visitors is not to be sneezed at.</p>
<p>You would think I would actually have one for <a href="http://andybeard.eu/2007/05/payperpost-direct-review.html">PayPerPost</a> by now &#8211; I do have a first page ranking with a tag page, but my most linked to post used &#8220;Pay Per Post&#8221; in both the headline and title tag &#8211; that was easily fixed, and with the additional link I will probably give that post a boost up the SERPs to go knocking on the door of both Wikipedia and Techcrunch.</p>
<p>Techcrunch with their &#8220;Crunchbase&#8221; in many ways kill their search engine traffic, especially with the way they frequently don&#8217;t interlink between posts with keywords. Linking to yourself with keywords is just as important as to other people.<br />
You would think that with all the times they have written about PayPerPost they would have a double listing&#8230; they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p><b>Crunchbase is slowly rising up the SERPs but are 2 listings on different domains really a good alternative to a double listing?</b></p>
<h3>Old&#8230; Old&#8230; Stompernet Video</h3>
<p>Ok, so it is not that old, it is from the launch of Stompernet Smarts</p>
<p>Who do you think ranks first for Stompernet Smarts? <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=stompernet+smarts&#038;pws=0&#038;gl=US" rel="nofollow">I do</a></p>
<p>This video is just 22 minutes, and Andy Jenkins shows you how to get indented listings the scientific way.</p>
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<p>Now if Michael Arrington was a member of Stompernet, he or his web developers would know how to get double listings at the top of the search engines.<br />
Currently his team have managed to get a <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=facebook&#038;pws=0&#038;gl=US" rel="nofollow">single listing for Facebook</a>&#8230; with Crunchbase&#8230; just below a 2 year old post from Mashable.</p>
<p>A similar query for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=myspace&#038;pws=0&#038;gl=US&#038;num=100" rel="nofollow">Myspace</a>, and both are out of the top30</p>
<p>Lets be a little more topical, the current Microsoft Yahoo deal &#8211; all they would probably have to do to have a double listing for a search term like &#8220;Microsoft Yahoo&#8221;, without quotes would be to do a little interlinking between these 2 posts</p>
<p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/wow-microsoft-offers-446-billion-to-acquire-yahoo/</p>
<p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/04/microsoft-pursues-yahoo-takeover/</p>
<p>Though they should also be getting these newer posts linked in</p>
<p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/</p>
<p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/18/yahoo-microsoft-back-at-the-table/</p>
<p>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/19/microsoft-v-yahoo-this-isnt-even-funny-any-more/</p>
<p>Fresh search engine results isn&#8217;t just a job for Google to handle, site owners who know what they are doing can heavily influence them too.</p>
<p>There are plugins which can probably do enough interlinking to make a difference, and keep the search listings current, and help these top blogs remain looking fresh in the SERPs, or it can be done manually.<br />
Linking purely off-site to Crunchbase, and then back to newer posts isn&#8217;t going to achieve double listings.</p>
<p>Now Techcrunch is doing very well for itself, at the start of the year they were hovering around 600,000 subscribers, and now they are 940k+ &#8211; I am sure a huge amount of that is related to the Microsoft / Yahoo deal, and possibly Facebook.</p>
<p>Could they be over 1,000,000 if they had their search results current?</p>
<p>If you look at <a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=microsoft+yahoo%2C+msft%2C+yhoo%2C+yahoo+microsoft&#038;ctab=0&#038;geo=all&#038;date=all&#038;sort=0" rel="nofollow">Google trends data, the number of people searching for &#8220;microsoft yahoo&#8221; without quotes</a> over the last few months has been very similar, and in some cases more than the people searching for stock quotes with MSFT or YHOO in Google.</p>
<p>For a blog looking to sell advertising, that is an awful lot of potential <b>subscribers left on the table</b>, probably reading their Microsoft Yahoo news&#8230; <b>somewhere else.</b></p>
<p>This is the kind of stuff the guys at Stompernet teach for free, <a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=53&#038;A=347">you should see some case studies</a>.</p>
<p>Stompernet will be reopening their doors tomorrow, and it is unlikely I will be mentioning them again. They provide great material for free, but ultimately often it seems like I am beating a dead horse.<br />
I certainly didn&#8217;t come close to winning that MacBook Air at the weekend, though I expected as much&#8230; in fact over the course of this week I haven&#8217;t managed to encourage enough people to sign up for the various locked FREE resources to win&#8230; <b><i>even a digital picture frame</i></b></p>
<p>What ultimately is the value of building an authority blog, and dominating search results, if you don&#8217;t at the same time leverage your traffic into a responsive email list?</p>
<h3>Update</h3>
<p>Yesterday Andy Jenkins released a sneak peak inside Stompernet</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;SubAffiliateID=doublevid"><img src='http://cdn5.andybeard.name/wp-content/uploads/stompernet-preview.png' alt='Stompernet 8 minue Preview' /></a></p>
<p>Now if you haven&#8217;t already, make sure you have downloaded all the free videos to your Hard Drive &#8211; they are available for download in the right hand navigation.</p>
<p>You never know when you might want to refer to them again &#8211; I have lots of Stomper videos recorded on DVD as well.</p>
<p>Also make sure you have signed up for the 100% Free Stomper <a href="http://www.stompernet.net/jvp/aw.aspx?B=44&#038;A=347&#038;Task=Click&#038;TargetURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.stompernet.net%2fgoingnatural3%2fvid2_top_seo_mistakes&#038;SubAffiliateID=doubleseer">Site Seer</a> &#8211; I know for many the first version might seem a bit basic, but the guys working on it really know their stuff, and I expect it to be immense value in the future.</p>
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